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#81111 09/26/02 09:58 AM
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he would fall asleep pretty soon

And dream about salt?

The line forms behind Shona


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Sloping off in semi-parallel direction (something that {cough cough-e} never happens here!):

The word indicated is sometimes used by reporters who just get weary of writing "he said" and is caught by alert Editors.
For instance a reporter might write "The candidate indicated that he was opposed to green fire engines."
The Editor would ask "How did he indicate it ? By splashing red paint on a green engine? He either said it or he didn't. Use said."
The editorial arguement is that the "He said" or "she said" allows the reader to identify the speaker but - in a way - disappears from the reader's consciousness and so does not interfere with the prose flow.
How do youze all feel about this nit? Hi Faldage



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Tangent Alert!!!

Rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb reminds me of an iguana I read about--the one that you usually see when people have one as a pet--the one with the medallions under his eyes. Here is its scientific name:

Iguana iguana iguana

Pardon the tangent, but it's not often that one reads the same word three times in a row.

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"The candidate indicated that he was opposed to green fire engines"

Hmmm, that doesn't necessarily mean he said it, though, Wise One, at least to my reading.

More like he implied it, or said it "in so many words".



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More like he implied it

Or perhaps, if he were in a cantonment, that he advised it.


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More like he implied it, or said it "in so many words".

I get the feeling that reporters are supposed to report what was said, not what they think was said. Inferring meaning (then repeating it as fact) is probably too editorial for what a reporter is supposed to do. wow?


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Wow, it was always admissible with the editors and publications I wrote for to use indicate in the context of an ongoing quote, such as...>Smith said, "I hate red houses!" He then indicated the reason by saying or showing<...or are you just saying that indicate can't stand alone as in, 'he indicated'?


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reporters are supposed to report what was said, not what they think was said

I meant more that if you said someone indicated something you may be paraphrasing what they said for convenience. Several examples of this on the BBC website, e.g.

Mr Blair's article comes a day after he indicated that the timing of any action was being discussed with Britain's closest allies

Blair almost definitely didn't say "the timing of any action is being discussed with Britain's closest allies", but neither is this interpretation/summary of what he did say subjective or contentious.


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paraphrasing what they said for convenience

Thus:

he indicated that the timing of any action was being discussed with Britain's closest allies

as opposed to:

he was like the timing of any action was being discussed with Britain's closest allies


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