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#81101 09/23/02 11:10 AM
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there is only one "iron"

Ferric iron (valence 3)

Ferrous iron (valence 2)


#81102 09/23/02 12:38 PM
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Ferric iron (valence 3) Ferrous iron (valence 2)
Taking up the gauntlet: it's still the same element. You could also have added metallic iron (valence 0). And I was afraid someone would throw in the numerous isotopes.
A pneumonia might also show up in various guises. Yet it always affects the lung.




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Jargon is of course part of any science

..and of many sports, hobbies, games, and of leisure pursuits from music and art right up to drinking.

It's about communicating at a level of detail removed from "average" experience, I suppose.

So what's the etymology of jargon? M-W is uninformative.




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etymology of jargon

AHD sez from ME iargoun, gargoun, meaningless chatter, from OFr jargoun, gargon "twittering" (probably imitative).


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from OFr jargoun, gargon "twittering" (probably imitative).

Figures, once you try going "gargon gargon gargon" with a bit of a French accent. Which reminds me of "rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb" being used for a boring speech. Digressing again.

Thank-ee Mr F.


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it's still the same element

To defend my point, the average Joe would see sodium chloride and say salt. Given potassium bromide he would shrug a huh? and forget it. He would do the same with metallic iron and ferric or ferrous iron.

But your point is taken.


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<<but your point is taken>>

Took the point and contra-indicated.


#81108 09/25/02 12:39 PM
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<<but your point is taken>>

Took the point and contra-indicated.

*rimshot*


#81109 09/26/02 07:14 AM
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Given potassium bromide he would shrug a huh? - Actually he would fall asleep pretty soon


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*Rimshot*


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