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#79932 09/07/02 08:58 PM
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Well yes Bill, I'll admit I'm all of those A-things, but aren't there any B's?




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i have a list of my favourite phobias, when I went to get it out of my notebook I found a page missing which unfortunately must have had the 'fear of long words' one on it ( my absolute winner), ho hum, here are a few more:

ANDROPHOBIA- fear of men
HYPENGYO-responsibility
BOGY-demons
KAKORRHAPIO-failure
AMEMO-draughts
IATRO-doctors



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I discovered that what was ostensibly an educational site was actually a front
for something unacceptable.


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That was a list of words, that's all. The only line that was crossed was an ability to absorb knowledge.

It's a 'sad day' when someone doubts the integrity of a list. It's the same day that 'Huckleberry Finn' is banned because it uses the word "nigger" or somehow 'perpetuates' a stereotype, etc....

I sat and watched the first two Godfather movies (for the first time all the way through) on a cable channel. It was advertised as the "Complete, Uncut versions". There is a scene when a young Michael Corleone, being protected on extended leave in Italy, gets married. The scene on his wedding night includes a breif topless shot... however this version had a computer "block out" her breasts. "UnCut" my ass. It's OK for us to see a horses head chopped off, Sonny Corleone being repeatedly riddled with bullets (including the asassin walking up after he's clerly dead and drilling him with the rest of his cartridge), a multitude of other bullets to the head as vividly and vile as they could be cinematically portrayed, yet apparently the world will be perverted somehow by seeing a woman's breasts.

Censorship is a personal thing.

(ps. I know they had no choice but to censor the movie in order to show it, but that's the issue! Maybe *someone could have asked Bill to remove just the *disgusting ones )


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Dear musick: I have sinned quite often in posting ribaldry. I deleted that site only because
I discovered it was just a front for an unspeakably vile pornography site. As I told you,
it even had a name for inserting the penis into the anus and then into the mouth of the
partner. I did not want to let anyone think I thought that was suitable for posting on AWADtalk.
To the ladies, forgive my further explanation.


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Dear wwh,

I thought I'd comment with my own perspective here for the examples I cited, not to prompt you to repeat the perceived transgression. My guess is that since you are posting this here (in public) you must have given a link to the source site in your second post above which I never got to see. I'm sure we'd all find it inappropriate here as its true nature had been discovered.

I apologize for the weak and failing attempt at turning this post into a discussion on censorship. It seemed like the appropriate place.


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good point, Musick! i was always interested in words, but i do clearly remember the first time i heard the lyrics to to the musical Hair and learned the words cunnilingus and felatio!

words only have power if we give them power. if we are shocked, we put it off and say the word was shocking, as was the F*** word, in Norman Mailers The Naked and the Dead-- an other eye opener for me, back in those days.

it wasn't that i hadn't heard the word or used it, it was i just had never seen it in print, being used as casually as the or it.

nowdays, i realize, i temper my language to the occation. i don't use F*** in general company that finds it offensive,(and some here, politely, have said they do) or at work or a string of other places. but i certainly know the word, and use!

I do find ethic slur words to be much more offence than the common four letter words, or any of the words that where originally posted. i never minded much if my kids said S*** or F***, but the N word (and even saying that is painful) or other ethic words, like Micky, or paddy or donkey, (all used to demean the irish) are much more offensive to me.

I self censor, but i don't much hold with being censored, or censoring. I want to be able to decide for myself what words i want to include in my lexis.

i trust other hear to do the same, (and for the most part we have). if they don't, i can stop posting here, or i can learn to deal with it, or i can ignore the offensive posts. but i don't feel i have a right to censor others posts. (but i don't think any did censor Dr. Bill, in this case it was self censorship.)


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Dear of troy: you gave no indication of what your reaction would have been
if I had not deleted that site. I have sent URL to musick, and will send it to
you if you so request by PM. My feeling about censorship is similar to yours,
that there is a time and place for everything. But AWADtalk is not the place
for that site,


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