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#79619 09/03/02 06:56 PM
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One of the very few attractive things about the classrooms
in my grade school were some very inexpensive but well chosen
monochrome prints by famous artists. I still remember them.
One was the Millet "Angelus" the farmer and his wife
stopping their work in huge garden, to pray,
in response to bells of
cathedral in the distance.

An[ge[lus or an[ge[lus 7an4j! l!s8
n.
5L (see ANGEL): so named from the opening words,
?Angelus Domini?6 R.C.Ch.
1a prayer said at morning, noon, and evening in commemoration of the Incarnation
2the bell rung to announce the time for this prayer





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that must have been a popular print, since i remember it from my early school years, too, circa late 1950 and early 1960's.

our church bells ran the angelus too, 6 am, noon and 6 pm there was a much more elaborate chime than ran on the hour..

6 pm was dinner time, and there was no excuse to be late, since we were never supposed to stray out of hearing of the church bells, and once we heard the angelus ring, we were to head home, and never be later than 6:05 or so..

i used to know a short latin prayer to be said at the angelus, but it didn't stick in my head.. the only latin i know is parts of the mass i learned to sing...


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L. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae,
A. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.
Ave Maria ...

L. "Ecce Ancilla Domini,
A. Fiat mihi secundum verbum tuum."
Ave Maria ...

L. Et verbum caro factum est,
A. Et habitavit in nobis
Ave Maria ...

L. Ora pro nobis,sancta Dei Genitrix,
A. Ut digni nefficiamur promissionibus Christi.

L: Oremus
Gratiam tuam, quaesumus Domine, mentibus nostris infunde: ut qui, Angelo nuntiante, Christi Filii tui incarnationem cognovimus, per passionem eius et crucem ad resurrectionis gloriam perducamur. Per eundem Christum Dominum nostrum.

R.Amen.





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But the Angelus bell o'er the Liffey's swell
Rang out in the foggy dew.



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The Angulus was too early for lovers. "The song details the troubles they get into
while he "shields her from the foggy, foggy dew."


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When i was growing up my parents took us to a splinter group of Catholics who anointed themselves with ashes four times a day.

Someone has finally written a book about it, I understand: Angelus Ashes.



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The Angulus was too early for lovers...he "shields her from the foggy, foggy dew."

In a folk-song book somewhere I read that the "foggy dew" was actually a term for a bug-bear or ghost (Anglicised Gaelic?). The supposed ghost was used as an excuse for the couple getting into bed together and staying there.

From memory:

One night she came to my bedside
When I was fast asleep;
She threw her arms around my neck
And then began to weep.
She wept, she cried, she damn near died,
She said "What can I do?"
So I hauled her into bed
And I covered up her head
Just to keep her from the foggy, foggy dew.


Irish contributions gratefully accepted here.


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Not Irish but.

The Foggy Dew is a song about the Easter Uprising of 1916. Any references that appear to be directed to a lover are to be taken as metaphor. As far as I know, the reference to the foggy dew is literal although I wouldn't rule out metaphorical connotations.


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The Foggy Dew is a song about the Easter Uprising of 1916

Not the one I'm thinking of, Fal. Best known English version at:
http://www.su.nottingham.ac.uk/~ramsoc/about/songs_efg.htm#foggy

A somewhat different version, with helpful notes, supportive of the foggy dew=bugaboo line, is at:
http://mysongbook.de/msb/songs/f/foggydw1.html
Worth checking this out.

Actually it looks like there are three versions of Foggy Dew, two concerned with love rather than 1916, and mine being known as Foggy, Foggy Dew:
http://www.contemplator.com/folk/foggy.html
There are midi files to download at this site, for those who want to hear the tunes.



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