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#77806 08/08/02 11:11 PM
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the mating call of a pezcyclando What key would that be in?

Bottom sea flat, con - a Bass key, of course.


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there is a reason why things are set into certain keys: because they sound better.


I would say that it goes even deeper than just a relationship to the instrument being used. the different frequency energies based around each key center will resonate with various life experiences. if D is martial, perhaps there is some correlation between the combined energy of marching(simplistic picture, I know) and the emotions necessary for battle with the frequencies most prominently found in the key of D. likewise, those keys which seem more pastoral may relate directly to the life energies found in a meadow or field. etc., etc. this may seem like a bunch of hokey, but I would like to see some thought about it. I've read(somewhere, wish I could find the source) that whale song and many natural vibrational processes(Earth's orbit) are centered around the key of Db.

anyway, I guess I believe there are connections to be found, and patterns hidden deeply within those things that move us most.



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RE: You know, for me, reading this thread is a little like trying to read a newspaper in Danish. I keep getting cream cheese on the comics but it is fun to imagine that I am understanding something, even if it is only my personal interpretation

you and me both connie.. i have been thinking of demanding wav files so i can have a clue... or else get emanuala in here, and give me frequencies in Hz, and let me generate the tones.. so i have some sort of clue.. (i might not always here the difference, but i might be able to parse the math..) still its like godel, esher and bach.. every once in a while a word or two strung to gether make some sort of sense.... goodness knows i found that book to be one of many i have encountered that consisted of words strung together, and while each indivigual word worked, the string were meaningless!-- but i still think i might have been able to understand it as a multi media presentation.. if i could hear, and read, and see, all at once.. maybe, maybe something would make some sort of sense, even if only temporarily. (like quantum mechanics.. when is see it on TV show, or hear a lecture (a really good lecturer) it perfectly clear, and i can fully understand it.. and 24 hours later, its back to being mush!)


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'taint no sus with a "B" in there!

[sigh] Have you learned nothing?

[points finger skyward]


I know, I know... it was a weak attempt at trying to pick at the word used to *prescribe it.

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etaoin - The *only hard thing to 'believe' is that emotions vibrate at specific frequencies for all preceivers.

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Algebra Schmalgebra!


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Oh that was good! I prostrate myself before you, trebling in awe.



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trebling in awe

Well, every good boy deserves favour, TEd, but don't quaver, don't even semiquaver. It's a breve feeling and I'm sure you can stave it off.

Get down the bar and take a rest for a minim.



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Interestingly enough, a good quarter or more of the works we do in the community chorus, and most of them religious, have a demented fifth tucked away somewhere in them. And that's just counting the bass part.

They're so much more tasty in the lower register!

A demented fifth seeks to resolve itself... I'd be even more interested if you sing any deficient ninths down there. I think you'd be *edging toward a virtual reformation.


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Running perty fast and loose with them equalses there, Jackie. Gonna post the site's url to back them up? Ohmigawd, how horribly embarrassing. I am so sorry. Thanks, wofa--that is indeed it. I had had a message that day that frightened me not a little (it's not every day that I hear someone say, "Don't make enemies unless you're prepared to kill them."), and then got an unrelated one which was devastating, and which I am still reeling from. I am glad the belated find sparked the good discussion I'd hoped it would.


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Jackie, I'm saddened to hear of the threatening message.

Back to demented fifths: musick, I might take a lickin' from Faldage on this, but I agree they need to be resolved, sort of a suspended devil if you will. For example: "Ma-ri-a" from West Side Story... you gotta have it go on.


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Perhaps I read the posts too hurriedly, but I didn't see any mention of the recently published book "Temperament" by Stuart Isacoff. A very readable book, it discusses tuning down through the ages, engaging "such great thinkers as Newton, Kepler, and Descartes as well as musicians, craftsmen, church leaders, and heads of state. At the heart of their dispute is the question of how the tones of a musical scale should be selected."


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