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#77334 08/02/02 11:55 AM
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I shudder to think how calabrese is being pronounced, if you guys are all complaining about the pronunciation of broccoli.

FWIW, in Italian it would be cahl-ah-BREH-seh. (Note that when I write eh that is something quite different from ay. It's something like the vowel in get, except for Kiwis, of course...) (Anyway, when I pronounce it, even in an English sentence, it comes out in Italian.) I can appreciate the need to make the word fit our English tongues, so I'm wondering what the anglicized version is!

Also, to me, the word is an adjective, not a noun, so it sounds funny to think of eating "calabrese". (A calabrese what? Bread? Person?)


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I know calabrese only as a type of sausage.

A googleization of calabrese, broccoli reveals hundreds of sites; I looked at the first two pages and they were all based in Ireland or the UK. I can't find a North American equivalent, but I ain't giving up. I'll ask at the greengrocer's tomorrow.

There's something sold in the US called broccolini; it's a recently-developed hybrid of broccoli and kale (I think).

And rabe is also called 'rappy.'






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it sounds funny to think of eating "calabrese". (A calabrese what? Bread? Person?)

depends ;)

(and FWIW, I pronounce it pretty much exactly as you describe, Bean, though I have no idea off the cuff what is general usage here)


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FWIW, I pronounce it pretty much exactly as you describe, Bean, though I have no idea off the cuff what is general usage here

Um, yes, well...

I'm pretty sure the general UK pronunciation would be Cah-luh-BREEZ



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Here are some links from a UK site:
broccoli calabrese
http://store.yahoo.com/seedsofchange/broccal.html

broccoli
http://santacruz.about.com/library/weekly/aa042102a.htm?terms=Broccoli

I was so excited when I saw a heading for Anthony Calabrese--I was thinking, "I can't wait to see the size of this...variety"<eg>; turns out he's an attorney in Arlington, Virginia!


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Jackie, yeahbut® can you find a calabrese site based in the USA or Canada that is *not about sausage? This is my problem. Looks like a job for Dr Bill!

Oh. And I know how to pronounce it, all right. I was married to one! (OK, quiet down, boys in the back...)


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I imagine that the more likely possibility is
(insalata) calabrese
calabrese salad

since we have some different kinds of vegetables called insalata from somewhere, insalata romana, insalata
trevigiana...
Bean, you are always a surprise! Luckily, we have genders and articles, so
to eat "un calabrese" would be to eat a male person,
to eat "una calabrese" sound as eating, likely, a pizza as cooked in Calabria ,whatever it can mean.


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Re: can you find a calabrese site based in the USA that is *not about sausage? This is my problem...
And I know how to pronounce it, ... I was married to one!


You were married to a sausage? well that explains alot!




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You were married to a sausage? well that explains alot!

Hey! When did you graduate to "boys in the back"???


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From seed ad on Internet:

There are two kinds of Broccoli, the Purple Sprouting
type, which is extremely hardy and is over-wintered and
gives small florets in the spring, and the summer types,
which are more like Cauliflowers in shape. These
summer types are called Calabrese or green sprouting
broccoli.



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