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#76573 - 08/13/02 02:09 PM Re: off by heart  
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BY:

You said:

I'm a bit loopy though, so don't mind me. I mean, I want to radically revalue the normative value of race and division in writing, and history, for myself. I want to wend my way back down the ladder of genetic memory and sense the unbroken chain of life that has led us here. I want to return to the source; centre myself; find divinity and hope; and raise the dead not create them.

As to the first sentence, I guess I have to agree with you. As to the rest of this paragraph, frankly, it's in English but I am unable to make any sense out of it.

One last word, BY, and then I am going to stop this senseless undialogue in which I speak English and you speak some unintelligible language that masquerades as
English:

I resent bitterly your statement that I would under any circumstances applaud the attacks on the World Trade Center. Your statement goes far beyond decency. And if you had any of it I would expect you to withdraw what you said and apologize to me. But I doubt that you have any decency.

TEd




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#76574 - 08/13/02 02:22 PM Re: My senses are fine, thank you.  
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TEd, firstly, "Silverado/Why don't you come to your senses?" was a whimsical parody of the Eagles' song "Desperado," alluding to Silverado having been swept under the carpet and forgotten, and that folks, in general, should open their eyes to the "business" doings of the Bushes. It was in no way an attempt of any kind at personal belittlement, and I apologize if it sounded that way.

Ditto the "naive, foolish, and gullible" comment referring to the Zapruder film clip...I still stand by that statement, that anyone, in the generic sense, who views the Zapruder film and still believes the head shot came from the rear as per the Warren Commission, and that Oswald acted alone, has to possess one, or all, of the three named qualities. That was not, however, a comment directed to you, personally, TEd, or about your beliefs or theories about JFK's assassination. That's why I added the "IMHO" at the end. I still remember, as clear as day, the first time they aired the film. I was viewing it with people of mixed political backgrounds, and the moment we saw that shot hit his head there was a joint sigh of relief and immediate consensus that "well, there it is...now we know there was another shot from the front and more than one shooter. Maybe now we'll find out what really happened." But, then, the "powers that be" announced they had to do a "thorough" investigation of the film, eventually offering the absurd physics-defying "conclusion" that the obvious shot-in-question also came from the rear, and that the impact made it look like he was hit from the front...please. (not a personally directed please). But I was personally insulted and infuriated, even at that young age, that I was being played for such a fool. If the government wasn't involved in the shooting, they were certainly involved in the cover-up.


#76575 - 08/13/02 02:31 PM Re: off by heart  
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In reply to:

I'm a bit loopy though, so don't mind me. I mean, I want to radically revalue the normative value of race and division in writing, and history, for myself. I want to wend my way back down the ladder of genetic memory and sense the unbroken chain of life that has led us here. I want to return to the source; centre myself; find divinity and hope; and raise the dead not create them.


I think what BY is saying, rather poetically, I think, is that we are all one, and he wishes for us to remember that and return to that as a way of life. we need to work at erasing all the barriers that time has erected...



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#76576 - 08/13/02 06:03 PM Conspiracies  
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Oh, I doubt you are correct about government conspiracies, Ted. I'm not pointing at the US government in particular here, just governments in general. They all conspire. Maybe not very competently, but they conspire.

And then a really good conspiracy can be hidden within a less well hidden one. Not everyone in government is a dumb flunky. Some of them can think and plot. I'm sure that some of them are capable of constructing a conspiracy that would work. Often, I would imagine, the trick is to know what the desired outcome is - it may not be the obvious one.

FWIW



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#76577 - 08/13/02 09:24 PM Re: Conspiracies  
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And then a really good conspiracy can be hidden within a less well hidden one.
You are right, CK. [shiver]


#76578 - 08/13/02 10:32 PM Re: Conspiracies  
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a really good conspiracy can be hidden within a less well hidden one

A successful conspiracy disguised as an unsuccessful conspiracy. Brilliant.


#76579 - 08/13/02 10:52 PM Re: Conspiracies  
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>And then a really good conspiracy can be hidden within a less well hidden one.

Spooky, Mulder.


#76580 - 08/14/02 01:33 AM Re: Conspiracies  
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A successful conspiracy disguised as an unsuccessful conspiracy
No, not disguised as. Hidden within. Not the same thing at all. Signed, Scully.


#76581 - 08/14/02 11:02 AM Re: Conspiracies  
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Hidden within/disguised as

And y'all accuse *me of being a pedantic nit picker.


#76582 - 08/14/02 12:39 PM Re: Conspiracies  
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And y'all accuse *me of being a pedantic nit picker.


Or would that be The Cigarette Smoking Man...hmmm? Or, perhaps, you're a nit-picking hybrid?




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