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#76553 - 08/11/02 05:45 AM Re: Choosing Violence--the Iraqi "Question"  
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> If that is the case, well, all he can do is drum his heels on the floor and call for his daddy!

And of course, it stops people uttering nasty words like Haliburton. Maybe the near certainty of a truly assinine House after November (for the first time in how long?) is unsettling one or the other of Junior's neurons.


#76554 - 08/11/02 02:57 PM Getting the picture  
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>But, then, when did any of this ever stop the Bushes before? You can't stop a clan who has an estimated $400 billion dollars laundered away from the Silverado S&L banking scandal and Iran/Contra dealings, and whose Patriarch once ran the CIA. If they can't buy you then Daddy picks up the phone and makes you "disappear"...like Cliff Baxter, the would-be "John Dean" of ENRON. Anybody getting the picture here, yet?

WO'N:

Aw, come on, you don't really believe any of that, do you? if you had said $40 million I might have given some credence to it. But $400 billion? That's a bit too outrageous even for the right wing conspiracy theorists.

And as to the Big Shrub's tenure as head of the CIA -- yep, he was there. And if you go back and look you will see that every prior head of the CIA was a political appointee. DCI's a figurehead who sets overall policy. The real work of the CIA is done by people like me and you. Actually I worked for the CIA for a short time back in the 60s, moving mail from one part of the building to another for a summer. I admit to not knowing a thing about covert ops, but I can tell you that the rank and file employees are nothing more or less than dedicated civil service types doing their jobs. Over 90 precent of the work is analysis, taking this little fact here, putting it with that little newspaper item there, and factoring it in with a little tidbit from a covert operation to arrive at something that might be useful to the policy makers in Congress and the executive branch.

And as to Baxter, why does every suicide in the government attract moths like conspiracy theorists flocking around a pool of blood?

TEd




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#76555 - 08/11/02 03:04 PM Re: Choosing Violence--the Iraqi "Question"  
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Thanks sjm for your concern for our well-being here in the states. We love our President. He got 50.01% of the vote. How did your elections go over in Akina?
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#76556 - 08/11/02 03:18 PM Re: Getting the picture  
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And as to Baxter, why does every suicide in the government attract moths like conspiracy theorists flocking around a pool of blood?

here is something about that...

the Sunday NYTimes mag.. The NY times does demand cookies,and registration, and its an 8 page article so i am not going to copy, but it is an interesting artile on conspiracy theory.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/11/magazine/11COINCIDENCE.html


#76557 - 08/11/02 08:05 PM Re: Choosing Violence--the Iraqi "Question"  
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He got 50.01% of the vote.

In an alternate universe perhaps, but not on this planet, according to
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/prespop.htm, which lists the following:
Candidate(Party Label) Popular Vote Total % of Popular Vote
Al Gore (Democrat) 50,999,897 48.38
G. W. Bush (Republican) 50,456,002 47.87

The Electoral college result gave Dubya 50.4655493482309% of the EC votes, so you're 0 for 2 in the matter of factual accuracy.


#76558 - 08/11/02 08:21 PM Our Concerns  
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We don't think of US politics as an abstraction, something that we can point fingers at, laugh about and then just move on and forget about. Whatever the US does, right or wrong, tends to get reflected in what happens to us, later if not sooner.

sjm, myself and other thinking people are very much aware that we are stuck with the fact that we have absolutely no say in who gets to be president of the US and yet we, and the rest of the world, are stuck with the consequences of the outcome of the US presidential elections. When that outcome is a Republican president, the rest of us have more to fear than when he's a Democrat, since Democrats typically restrain themselves from foreign adventurism.

If America didn't project its power - both political and military - as if it were the only country in the world, our concern about US presidential elections and about those for the House and the Senate, too, would only be theoretical. Unfortunately, that's not the way the world works.



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#76559 - 08/11/02 08:58 PM Re: Our Concerns  
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In reply to:

We don't think of US politics as an abstraction, something that we can point fingers at, laugh about and then just move on and forget about. Whatever the US does, right or wrong, tends to get reflected in what happens to us, later if not sooner.

sjm, myself and other thinking people are very much aware that we are stuck with the fact that we have absolutely no say in who gets to be president of the US and yet we, and the rest of the world, are stuck with the consequences of the outcome of the US presidential elections.


Well said. Thank you.


#76560 - 08/11/02 10:10 PM Re: Our Concerns  
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In reply to:

we are stuck with the fact that we have absolutely no say in who gets to be president of the US and yet we, and the rest of the world, are stuck with the consequences of the outcome of the US presidential elections.


sometimes we USns feel the same way.



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#76561 - 08/12/02 12:18 AM Re: Choosing Violence--the Iraqi "Question"  
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He (meaning President Bush) got 50.01% of the vote. ~ milo

The Electoral college result gave Dubya (meaning President Bush) 50.4655493482309% of the EC votes, so you're 0 for 2 in the matter of factual accuracy ~ sjm


In our Republic ,sjm, territory has rights, and popular vote counts are for quiz shows and crossword puzzles.
And for the good of the Republic for which I stand, sjm, I underestimated President Bush's victory margin intentionally, because I did not wish for those loyal Gore supporters, who at heart are really not a bad lot, not to think that it wasn't close. -


#76562 - 08/12/02 01:06 AM Re: Choosing Violence--the Iraqi "Question"  
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I underestimated President Bush's victory margin intentionally
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Main Entry:lie
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English lige, lie, from Old English lyge; akin to Old High German lug*, Old English l*ogan to lie
Date:before 12th century

1 a : an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive.
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