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#85 - 11/14/00 06:24 PM Re: doppelgänger  
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I'd say, "one and the same."

mea culpa.

I don't remember ever seeing it written. I have difficulty hearing distinctions in words such as "in" and "and." (because both I don't hear well, and southerners often pronounce "and" as "un") I'm not confident whether the phrase that I've heard spoken was "one and the same" or "one in the same."


#86 - 11/14/00 08:33 PM Re: doppelgänger  
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I can't recall ever seeing the phrase written, either, xara, which is why I was asking. And while I don't expect to see a post from Anu (aka the man behind the curtain), perhaps one of our resident pundits will clear up the term for us, even if the Anu-Jackie relationship continues a mystery .


#87 - 11/14/00 08:42 PM Re: doppelgänger  
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I've only heard one and the same.

but Xara, i admire your courage! This is a scary place sometimes. its not the the posters are mean or meanspirited,(rather the opposite mostly) but, they have such eagle eyes, and pick up each nuance! and then they put their wits to work and you watch the word fly! I have learned so much here!






#88 - 11/15/00 12:44 AM One = Same  
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Phrase Finder has it "one and the same."

See http://www.shu.ac.uk/web-admin/phrases/index/html

PS: Look, Jackie, I made a link!!



#89 - 11/15/00 01:41 AM Re: One = Same  
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PS: Look, Jackie, I made a link!!

You sure did! Hallelujah! (For-rr, the Lord God omni-
po-tent reig-neth!) (That was for you, Anna! And, I am quite sure that Anu would be utterly bumfuzzled at the idea that he and I have a relationship.)


#90 - 11/15/00 02:31 AM bumfuzzled  
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bum·fuz·zle (bmfzl)

v. tr. bum·fuz·zled, bum·fuz·zling, bum·fuz·zles. Chiefly Southern U.S.

To confuse.

[Probably bum- (probably alteration of bamboozle) + fuzzle (perhaps blend of fuddle) and fuzzy.]

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition
Copyright © 1996, 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.



#91 - 11/15/00 04:28 AM Re: One = Same  
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Hallelujah! (For-rr, the Lord God omni-
po-tent reig-neth!)


Thanks, Jackie - Messiah is my second favourite piece of music, after Beethoven's Ninth. The only "problem" is that now I can't get "He trusted in God" out of my head. The rest of you should all sing Hallelujah in praise of your inability to hear me!


#92 - 11/15/00 12:07 PM Re: Handel  
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I, too, thank you for the reference, Jackie. Max, Messiah is my favorite piece, followed by Beethoven's Ninth. Händel is the only guy I know who could take a word like "iniquity" and make it beautiful.


#93 - 11/15/00 03:16 PM Re: Handel  
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I can't fault you guys for your taste in choral masterpieces, but does anyone else get Orff on "Carmina Burana"?


#94 - 11/15/00 03:49 PM Re: Handel  
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does anyone else get Orff on "Carmina Burana"?

Only in the Old Spice commercials.

the sunshine (a philistine and proud of it) warrior


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