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#69555 05/13/02 05:41 AM
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most notably the radical mastectomy which, although a cruel procedure, saved many women from death by breast cancer


Cruel procedure? Are you saying that the physicians were sadists? It's the cancer that's cruel. The operation was merely the way to deal with the problem with the least overall pain and anguish. The radical mastectomy isn't used as widely now, but at the time they were certainly doing the best they could on the information they had. It's hardly cruel.


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Sorry, Max. I will try to do better--sure isn't intentional and have been trying to do better since you pointed out the problem in the first place.

Very humbly yours,
Wordwind

PS: I've gone through several threads now trying to find the one in which I messed up. Haven't found it so far. Please PM me if you get a chance, and I'll at least delete it.


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Iron works (custom wrought iron) is a still a curiously big business in NYC-- custom iron gates, window gates, decorative wrought iron elements.. results in several iron works in ever borough of NYC! (they don't call themselves blacksmith, but they do the same job, custom fabricating from raw iron. ) like coopers, they hang on.

and NYPD alone has enough horses to have a full time farrier on staff! there are stables uptown, and downtown, and in Queens, and Bronx.. there might be police stables else where (brooklyn/staten island)

there are plenty of public stables too, again, every borough has at least one, some several, riding academies, where you can stable your horse, or rent one to go riding. so i suspect there is a least one, or two private farriers -- not to mention the ones at the race tracks.

SUNY Westbury, has an equestian program,* and all of Long Island's north shore has horses.. (i live in queens on the north shore (of Long Island Sound)
the Long Island part of the North shore has a lot of money, new and old.. (see the movie Sabrina-either version) and lots of horses--and some farriers.
*but the only school(i know of) to train to be a farrier, is in Kentucky.


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It was these four doctors who got medical training away from an apprenticeship program and into rigourous academic training with practical work with the patients in the hospital, to which the med. school was attached. They also developed the system of internship and residency.

And I hold them personally responsible for all my pain.


Doc! Thanks for the best laugh in a week!




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How about corsetiere?
The woman who made corsets in early days and in later days knew enough about the intricacies of underwear to recommend a brand of girdle that fit you and also could measure you for a bra that did not ride up, bunch, or hurt after a work-day of wearing!




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Reminds me of the story of the little girl who walked into a drugstore in the early 1900s. She said to the druggist, "Do you fit trusses?"

He said, "Why, yes, I do. Why?"

"She answered, "Please wash your hands and make me a milk shake."




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Wow, large cities still have'm. (corsetiere) next time you plan a trip to boston, check a directory first..

my sisters (who all bear an anatomical resemblance to Dolly Parton, some thing i do not) all get custom bra's.. as does my neice. (my daughter had me for a mother, so she is only normally big busted..and goodness knows, even that didn't come from her fathers side of the family.. who are all small breasted. )
nothing is made in my sisters sizes, they have normal bra's altered to fit. they claim, though expensive, is worth it, because A) bra's are comfortable, B) they don't stretch out of shape, and they last longer.


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The person who rode in the back of an early steam automobile and kept the fire going had a title that is in common use today but who has a distinctly different job although it is still done in automobiles.


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