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#69253 05/08/02 11:03 PM
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In a review of a book about salt in New Scientist, it says that "Gaul" is derived from Greek "hal".


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And the connection to salt is...?

I can't answer the question, if question there is; however, this http:// http://www.giveshare.org/israel/french/chapter6.html is a truly weird site -I give it little credence.

The only other comment I have to make, broadly on this topic, is that calling someone "Welsh" is a term of abuse, or was originally meant to be, since it means barbarian =]

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> truly weird site

mmm, indeed - that only-on-the-web mixture of warped scholarship and a complete crock of shite :)


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And the connection to salt is...?

I would guess that the root hal- being the root of halite was the connection.

Here, BTW, is the cleaned up and working version of alexis's link:

http://www.giveshare.org/israel/french/chapter6.html

I haven't looked at it, so I give it less of a good review than does alexis.




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Oh-- next month I am going to a book club discussion of the book on salt. it will be a 2 hour discussion, with the author, (and of course a book signing..)

Next week's book club meeting (one a month) is with Michael Pollan (who's name came up in a thread about apt names ~the spelling of that words eludes me right now), on his book Botany of Desire-- Local musuem sponsers the bookclub.


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calling someone "Welsh" is a term of
abuse, or was originally meant to be, since it means barbarian =]


So, the ancient Welsh had beards? (Latin barberi = bearded ones) That's why I was shocked to see Russell Crowe wearing a beard in the movie, Gladiator. They would have thrown him to the lions for that!


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mmm, indeed - that only-on-the-web mixture of warped scholarship and a complete crock of shite :)

However, if it were true it would explain an awful lot about the Welsh. Not to mention the Irish!



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So, the ancient Welsh had beards?

Or spoke in a language incomprehensible to the Greeks, sounding like nothing so much as "Bar bar bar" as other notions as to the origin of the word barbarian would have it.

The beard went in and out of fashion among the Romans (as presumably among the Greeks) as it does among modern cultures. Marcus Aurelius, Commodus' daddy and Maximus' fave emperor, is generally depicted wearing one his own se'f.

http://www.pantheism.net/images/marcusa.jpg


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Here is a link to first chapter of the book: http://www.saltbook.com/chapter.php


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Ms. de Troy: You're going to a book club discussion of Botany of Desire with Michael Pollan himself?! Cool?!

I'm reading the book right now, and it's really great, Very interesting, vastly easier to read than much of non-fiction, and full of all kinds of cool little historical and scientific factoids. I love the whole debunking (forgive the loaded term here) of the legend of Johnny Appleseed - turns out he was planting seeds to grow apple trees to make applejack liquor, and that's why he was so popular.


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