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#69037 05/10/02 08:27 PM
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> With all due respect to Charles Dickens, whose work I adore, you don't see Bela Lugosi sequels to "Oliver Twist" called "Bride of Twist", "Son of Twist", Mel Brooks' "Young Twist" etc. Please cut old "scary Mary" a little slack.

Indeed, and the greatest tragedy with M. Shelley and her infamous novel is that the creature she conceived of, Frankenstein's horrible creation, has lived on far more vividly in popular memory than she herself ever has, poor lady.


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relate to Mary Shelly are you? Ha, i've just been told you are related to Charlemagne--as am I.

a mathematical study of genealogy indicates that everyone in the world is descended from Nefertiti and Confucius, and that everyone of European ancestry is descended from Muhammad and Charlemagne-- or so Steve Olson says in the May issue of Atlantic Monthly!
My ex traced his family back to french Hugonots, who lived (and survived) the siege of Rochelle. my mother's family has data going back to 1450's( this was a real impetus for my ex to trace his family tree back to its pre- mayflower days.)the story is not available on line (or at least not for free)


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a mathematical study of genealogy indicates that everyone in the world is descended from Nefertiti and Confucius, and that everyone of European ancestry is descended from Muhammad and Charlemagne-- or so Steve Olson says in the May issue of Atlantic Monthly!


Everyone in the world? Including pure-blooded Australian Aborigines? Members of Amazon tribes that have only recently been contacted?

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I'd heard of 95 out of a hundred. I didn't get nos. 50, 56, 67, 71, and 75. Am I woefully undereducated?

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I hadn't heard of No. 75 either. I knew about all the others in general terms, but I would seriously question the order they're presented in. If it was just a list of the 100 most influential people, fair enough, that's a matter of perspective. However it claims to be a ranking. But no criteria are given ...



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Thank you O'Worthy Wind, good wordwitch of Awad, who, with a twitch of a hip and the stomp of a pretty foot, can change, like Mary Tyler Moore, the whole world with her wiles, thank you wordwind for the conjure of...

A & E's Ranking of the Top 100 Most Influential People of the Past Millennium

A careful look at the listings reveals much, such as can be found in the temporal plotting below...

- * = influentials rated 1-50
- * = influentials rated 51-100

- Century:

11th : *
12th : *
13rd : **
14th : ~
15th : *******
16th : ******
17th : ******
18th : ***************
19th : *******************
20th : ***************************


You see in the twentieth century there were a lot more people, so it kinda makes you wonder why we had to pad our influentials with the likes of Elvis, Princess Di, The Beatles, Patient Zero, etc.

And another thing, what about Marilyn Monroe and Gina Lollobrigida? And how about Brigitte...uh... what's her last name...you know, the french girl... uh... Her? I thought they were pretty influential.

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Damn you, milum, I was trying to do up that table!

Of course, don't forget that the list was created by a TV company called Arts & Entertainment.

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i sorry the article isn't available on line, but yes, My dear Mr. Bingley, even your pure blood aborigine came from somewhere. Life did not spring up, in spontanious generation (or may it did, and the author is wrong.)

humans migrated, and moved and yes, any human that was alive at the time austrailia was being settled was releated to nepheritie..

i had 2 parents, 4 grandparents. 8 great grandparents. 16 by 4 generation back, 32 by 5 (a hundred years) 64, 128, 256, 512, in the next hundred years.. go back a thousand plus years, throw in some kids from the wrong side of the blanket, some rapes in time of war, some revolutions, where old gentry became the new poor, and the old poor became the nuevo rich, who wanted to have some old blood in the family, and pretty soon, every one is related to Charlemagne!

go back 4000 years-- and every one on earth today is related to almost (if not everybody) who was alive at that time..
and no, silk muse, i have no doubts about your geniology, and yes, i have my mother family tree as far back, published in a three volume set, the Kavanagh's of Dublin out of print, but available in Dublin's libraries, in the last chapter, the auther notes, my mother has immigrated, lives in NY, and has two daughters (i am my mother's second daughter). my younger siblings didn't make the book


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