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#68612 05/02/02 09:25 PM
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I found this word first in a Newsweek article about adjustments Silicon valley CEO's are ;having to make since the abrupt downturn in avaliability of venture capital: "The ones who took billion-dollar bites from the apple are suffering postlapsarian blues.
I searched for it, and found a couple quotes, e.g.:
How would you compare the rational ideal of the Houyhnhnms with the role of reason in Milton’s paradise? Are the Houyhnhnms Swift’s idea of what prelapsarian man might have become, the Yahoos his idea of what postlapsarian man has become? 203, 215

So it evidently refer's to the expulsion of Adam and Eve from Paradise, because Eve took a bite out of the apple.


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Seems there are many lapsarians, pre- and post-, sub- and supra-, wwh, all finding significance in the original "lapse" in the Garden of Adam and Eve. This from the Dictionary of Phrase and Fable. 1898.

Sub-Lapsa’rian, Supra-Lapsarian.

The sub-lapsarian maintains that God devised His scheme of redemption after the “lapse” or fall of Adam, when He elected some to salvation and left others to run their course. The supra-lapsarian maintains that all this was ordained by God from the foundation of the world, and therefore before the “lapse” or fall of Adam.



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"IN ADAM'S FALL WE SINNED ALL"

The New England Primer begins with the words "In Adam's Fall we sinned all." This was a book designed to teach children the alphabet and the fundamentals of reading


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As the others have pointed out, yes -lapsarian refers to the fall of humanity for rejecting God (it wasn't just that they ate the fruit; the real issue was that they basically wanted to overthrow God). It's interesting, actually, to see these Biblically-based words and ideas become common, especially today in such a secular world... another great word is 'post- [and pre-] diluvian', meaning after [or before] the Flood.

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I think 'before the flood' is more familiarly rendered as 'antediluvian'..

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>antediluvian

You're right, often it is, but I have seen post-deluvian as well; of course, it doesn't roll quite as nicely off the tongue


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Antedeluvian, of course, means "before the flood." I'm still OK with post-deluvian.

Apres le deluge (parm my Frainch)


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all this was ordained by God from the foundation of the world, and therefore before the ?lapse?

Interesting late Middle English Advent carol we sang one year that didn't even mention Jesus. The general gist of the carol was that it was a good thing that Adam lapsed because otherwise Mary wouldn't have gotten to be the Queen of Heaven.


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postlapsarian - the expulsion of Adam and Eve from Paradise, because Eve took a bite out of the apple.

Here's a thought that niggles at my mind once in awhile.
Suppose Adam had refused to eat the apple?
And only Eve was forced from Eden?
A world full of women - what would change and how?
Pondering ... pondering ...

What would that have done to history?






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Apparently only male chauvinists wrote Scripture, so no feminist ideas were recorded. It is mildly blaspemous to suggest that God would have created a man first, and then a female as an afterthought.


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