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while looking about for a thread to bring back which hadn't gone all self-referential and/or pear-shaped, I was reminded how often haggis has been brought up here (no pun) in the past. in this happy vein I give you:
From "The Poems of Ewen McTeagle"
Horace
Much to his Mum and Dad's dismay,
Horace ate himself one day.
He didn't stop to say his grace,
He just sat down and ate his face.
"We can't have this!" his Dad declared,
"If that lad's ate, he should be shared."
But even as he spoke they saw
Horace eating more and more:
First his legs and then his thighs,
His arms, his nose, his hair, his eyes...
"Stop him someone!" Mother cried,
"Those eyeballs would be better fried!"
But all too late, for they were gone,
And he had started on his d___.
"Oh! foolish child!", the father mourns
"You could have deep-fried that with prawns,
Some parsley and some tartar sauce."
But H. was on his second course:
His liver and his lights, and lung,
His ears, his neck, his tongue...
"To think I raised him from the cot
And now he's going to scoff the lot!"
His Mother cried, "What shall we do?
What's left won't even make a stew..."
And as she wept, her son was seen
To eat his head, his heart, his spleen.
And there he lay, a boy no more,
Just a stomach on the floor...
Nonetheless, since it was his,
They ate it - that's what haggis is.
- Monty Python Calendar - April 2002
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The Scots are derided for conspicuous underconsumption. Surely Horaace's parents could not be accused of that.
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I did a Yahoo search on disgusting foods (3 hits!), and found "liver and lights" listed under England.
What are these things from Norway, please? (hi, m & s!) Lutefisk, Gravlax Litefisk has been on here before, but I forgot what it is.
Oh, barf, look at this:
Mediterranean: Sheep's head. The whole thing, cooked and skinned. Includes the eyeballs.
Here's one for you, wofa.:
Central Asia: Kumiss (Fermented Mare's Milk)
Bingley, have you...never mind, I don't want to know! Indonesia: Blachan, Dog-Meat Restaurants, Bats
Anna, what is Brazil: Gari , please?
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Another disgusting food-thread ...
Oh, sorry, this is a disgusting-food thread.
[de gustibus non est disputandum]
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Gravlax is absolutely delectable Jackie! It is very simply sugar-cured salmon, which is served sliced very thinly with a minimum of accompaniments/fuss. It is very similar to smoked salmon (looks the same) but has a more subtle flavour.  Yum!
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I searched for "Salmon Gravlax" and hit a dozen recipes. It does sound like a delicacy.
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disgusting foods
There's been rumors for years that the Mob owns meat-packing plants around Newark in North Jersey, and uses them very efficiently. Find any Jimmy Hoffa in your head cheese? Is that five o'clock shadow on your salami? Needless to say, head cheese never made my menu after I heard that.
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Anybody for a Sweeny Todd meat pie? with fingernails?
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Now that's funny.* In Brazil cassava (manioc) is more commonly called mandioca. Gari is the West African (Yoruba? Nigeria?) name for it, though there are so many descendants of slaves in Brazil it doesn't surprise me that the word is still in use there. Anyway, it's a root vegetable that's ground up into a flour then mixed with water and boiled to make a grits-like paste. It's not really disgusting, I don't think, just sort of tasteless (to me). It's a staple for many people: a hardy tuber, it can be left in the ground for many months after ripening, so there's a sort of built-in protection against famine for a season.
Will wonders never cease? I'm contributing to a food thread!!
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*funny peculiar, not funny ha-ha
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Dear tsuwm,
Thanks for that little poem--it was delightful to read and even more delightful to imagine in the mind's eye!
It reminded me (in a strange way) of the little boy in "Monster's Ball" who was so determined to eat candy bars and other junk food--and he ended up dead, too, but not humorously so.
I've mentioned this before, but I heard that Scottish cuisine (odd alliance of two words, those two preceding!) is "based on a dare": "I dare you to eat this!" "I dare YOU to eat THAT!"
Bloated regurgitation,
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in many parts of africa, the word Fu-Fu is used for manioc. I don't know if manioc is native to africa, or an imported crop, but like peanuts (imported from americas) it has become a basic staple. (fu fu is a swahili word, so it has some links to arabic)
Fu-fu is the name for the prepared food.. i don't know if the tubers in the ground are called the same thing.. (curiously peanut are called ground nuts.. grind them into a paste, (peanut butter) and they are still ground nuts.)
manioc is a very poor food source. it has very low protein (lower even than rice or potatos, foods we don't even consider good sources of protein!) and it is rather rich in cyanide.. not so rich as apricot kernal pits (bitter almonds) higher than most.
but as AnnaS points out, it is very long keeping, easy to grow, survives drought, etc...
an african friend here, looking for something like it, swore by instant mashed potatoes,(the cheapest brands) made with water, no milk or butter, and an extra dollop of potato starch added, to make the potatoes blander and starchier. the better quality instant potatoes were to smooth, creamy and flavorful!
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Cassava
... baked, or fried. It is not recommended to eat cassava uncooked, because of potentially
toxic concentrations of cyanogenic glucosides that are reduced to ...
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/Crops/CropFactSheets/cassava.html
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Mango
An Important Note: Always rinse mangoes thoroughly before using. They are a
distant relative of poison ivy and the residue of sap from the tree on the skin of
the mango may cause an allergic reaction in some people.
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RE: Central Asia: Kumiss (Fermented Mare's Milk)
Yogurt--yogurt is fermented milk, right? only from horses instead of cows. i eat cheese made from buffulo, sheep and goats, so why not yogurt from horses milk?
buttermilk is fermented milk too, and why not buttermilk from horses?
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yogurt is fermented milk, right?
Presentation is everything, helen.
What did you have for breakfast today?
Oh, I had aborted chicken fetusus and slices of a pig's butt.
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you're so right! do you have that with the clotted fat extracted from an animals gland? (e.i., butter) spread on sliced, baked, fermented, procecced grain? (bread)
some folks i know like there grain soaked in lye, then ground and recooked, (grits) served with fat, burnt grain and a water extract of meat (gravy!)
still it sound better than the fluid extract of an animals gland, that is mixed with an extract from the animals stomace, till it clots, most of the fluid drawn off, and the solid bits left to ferment in caves.. better known as cheddar! and don't even start me on mushrooms or blue cheese! many foods are quite unpaletable if you think too hard about what goes into them. many asians think the idea of drinking milk is gross.. and cheese, which is fermented, dried milk? Ugh! personally i love the stuff!
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Oh, I had aborted chicken fetusus and slices of a pig's butt.
Dear Faldage: You buy your eggs in the wrong place. Few eggs are actually fertile, and they are "candled" to avoid sending any with embryos to market.And "fetus" refers to later stages when structures can be identified.
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Reminds me of the old story of the chicken and the pig, politicians of opposite persuasion who we nonetheless dear friends of long standing, who espied a breakfast eatery as they strolled and conversed one fine morning. "Come, friend," said the chicken, "let us stop in and share a plate of ham and eggs for breakfast." Retorted the pig, orating against his friend's effrontery, "Suh, what you have so casually proposed requires of you a mere contribution, but of me a total commitment!"
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Oh, I had aborted chicken fetusus and slices of a pig's butt. -Faldage. Dear Faldage: You buy your eggs in the wrong place. Few eggs are actually fertile, and they are "candled" to avoid sending any with embryos to market. And "fetus" refers to later stages when structures can be identified. -wwh Mnnnnm... Oh Bill, darling, I do so love it when you talk dirty to Faldage. I feel so...so...unnecessary. 
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Dear Milo,
You izz crazy boy.
Dear Bill,
How do you candle an egg?
Best regards,
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So this looks like the thread to post this question I've had, so here goes. Most people feel it's wrong to eat other people. But is it by law wrong, are there any religions that specifically say Thou shalt not eat thy neighbor's wife? I've lost the name (It was in my head two seconds ago) the blond that ate those people in chicago. He went to jail because he killed them first right? On the other hand the soccer team from South America ate people who were already dead to survive and that's okay? If I ate Jimmy Hoffa am I going to jail?
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there is a rather strict social taboo in many societies against canablism. and most state laws don't out right ban it (it's so unthinkable!)but there are many laws concerning treatment of bodies, and how human bodies must be accorded respect, etc. the social taboo is rather strict. Member of the Donner family have changed their names!-- 150 years later they are still well known.
there are some real biological reason to abstain from canabalism, Kirku, (i'll check the spelling and come back and edit if needed) is a brain disease in human, first found in a south pacific tribe that practiced canabalism.. it is a human form of what is common called Mad Cow Diseease, which is just one of a collection of trasmitable Spongiform ensephelitis.. (TSE)-- mad cow is Bovine SE, or BSE. BSE became an issue because "high protein" cow feeds were made up off cow and other animals (notable sheep)sheep, what is it with sheep on this board!, forcing normal grass eaters to become canablistict.
this canabalism spread the disease rapidly.
TSE's are a very interesting subject, i used to follow closely, but as late, almost all the web site i know tracking BSE in the UK have shut down. there is tons of info out there, (i haven't had a chance to look, of late.)
there are other diseases that can be spread the same way.
some reptiles, especially croc's and gator's do it, but its is uncommon among higher level animals.. even lions, that will kill cub in a pride that they did not sire, do not eat the cubs.
(and unless you ate jimmy hoffa years ago, when he was fresh meat, you win the prize for most disgusting food!)
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cannibalism and the law
So, ladymoon, you question is that (aside from the circumstance of survival) if you somehow unknowingly
consume human flesh, and somebody can prove conclusively that you did, then are you libel for prosecution under international, federal, or state law?...Interesting proposition. But, alas, all I have to offer in answer is that I can only surmise it to be a very sticky wicket.
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For a very profound but disturbing true story: In The Heart of The Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex by Nathaniel Philbrick, which won the National Book Award for 2000.
Reminiscent in some ways of Shackleton's Endurance. By the way, a TV miniseries on the Shackleton South Pole expedition's trials started here about an hour ago.
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The Donner tragedy during the Gold Rush.
Donner Party, group of American migrants to California in 1846-47. Two families, the Donners and the Reeds, accounted for most of the 87 members of the party, which left Sangamon County, Illinois, in 1846, under the leadership of George Donner. After considerable difficulty crossing the Great Salt Lake in Utah, they were trapped by heavy snows in the Sierra Nevada in November. Forced to camp for the winter at a small lake, now named Donner Lake, about 21 km (about 13 mi) northwest of Lake Tahoe, they suffered enormous hardships, and members of the group resorted to cannibalism in order to survive. Forty-seven of them were eventually brought to California by rescue parties over what is now known as Donner Pass.
"Donner Party," Microsoft(R) Encarta(R) 98 Encyclopedia. (c) 1993-1997 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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I once saw a budgie feasting on his/her dead cagemate in K-mart. Now that was disgusting and revolting.
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" I wonder how many non-Zilders have ever seen footage of rabbits eating rabbits?"
Dear Max: I have never heard of this. I wonder if it represents some deficiency in the environment in the protein they need. Surprising also that the usual scavegers do not beat them to any carcass.
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Dear Max: I had no idea they had gotten that numerous. Two bad that twin disease thing that worked so well fifty years ago stopped working. A virus disease that would kill over ninety percent, and a bacterial disease almost as good. I never did hear why it stopped working. What other control schemes were tried?
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are there any religions that specifically say Thou shalt not eat thy neighbor's wife?
Leviticus 11
1. And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2. Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These [are] the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that [are] on the earth.
3. Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, [and] cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
4. Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: [as] the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.
5. And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.
6. And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.
7. And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he [is] unclean to you.
8. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they [are] unclean to you.
Thy neighbor's wife cheweth not the cud nor doth she split the hoof. She is unclean to you.
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Nice logic exercise, Faldage [bow]. Meanwhile, what's a coney?
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what's a coney?
That'd be your basic bunny rabbit (I din't know they chewed no cud, neither)
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Dear AS, if I am allowed to answer, since the "hare" and the "coney" are mentioned in the same terms, coney must be an old term for rabbit. I have to admit the bit about their feet makes no sense to me, nor have I any idea why they were "unclean".
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So, in other words, fellas, a geek is a New York sideshow performer who bites the head off a bunny rabbit?
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Bite the head of a rabbit? Take a big mouth and very good incisors!
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>Take a big mouth and very good incisors!
Bugs Bunny was a cannibal?!
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Mr. Ts asks: Bugs Bunny was a cannibal?!
Nope, Bugs Bunny was a can nibble.
Bugs regards,
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I can't quite remember the Irish word for rabbit, but it sounds something like 'caneen', which sounds kinda like 'coney'
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Bit of trivia about pet hares. Their incisors grow continuously, upper ones wearing lower ones down. If something goes wrong with occlusion of incisors, they grow so long hare cannot eat properly. I have seen one with incisors over four inches long, lower ones almost touching skull above eyes.
Another bit of trivia. Rabbits' hind legs are much shorter than those of hares. Almost all pets are hares.
And on subject of revolting diets, rabbits and hares have to eat their own droppings periodically, to maintain instestinal flora capable of digesting cellulose.
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yes, Coney Island (which is no longer an island, but has been connected to Long Island) was named because it was filled with rabbits.
it has come up before.. (a thread about geography-) Coney Island used to be a barrier island (like the one WO'N lives on) but over time, the back bay has been filled in nad now its its connected. there are barrier islands starting in georgia, and you can boat between georia and Mass., with about 10 mile of the trip being in the open ocean. it called and inland waterway.
there are some bad spots, (cape fear, and hell gate come to mind) but for the most part, its a tranquile way to travel.
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another kind of rabbit
This from Dr. Bill's new site link, A Dictonary of Thieving Slang 1837.
RABBITS
RABBITS, wooden Cans to drink out of, once used on the Roads, now almost laid by.
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Will wonders never cease? I'm contributing to a food thread!!Hee hee hee--gotcha!  [walking away polishing knuckles on sleeve e]
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[walking away polishing knuckles on sleeve e]
You polish your knuckles on your sleeve? I thought it was supposed to be your fingernails you polished on your sleeve.
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And they're digging for him in Michigan!  Who'd've thought? I hope it doesn't ruin the salami, head cheese, and under-the-Meadowlands theories, though...I kinda like those! 
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What's that? Some long-dead missing USn unionist/mobster has been found? Stop the presses! Be still my beating heart!
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It's a running joke, Max...Hoffa's whereabouts have always been a joke. That's all. No...nobody really cares.
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>It's a running joke, Max...Hoffa's whereabouts have always been a joke.
Believe me, coca-colanisation has made sure that every literate person everywhere is well aware of this already.
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every literate person
Well, that would have left Hoffa out, in any case ...
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