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#63578 04/08/02 09:43 PM
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So chilling on some days instead of a yellow stalagmite you get yellow hail.


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Is pronounced "Nor-geh" in Norway, so it may have been an attempt to get the uninformed to pronounce it on first sight.

When Mom moved here from Norway after WWII, she spelled her name Osa for this same reason. Just imagine how'd it would be read here as originally spelled "Aase".


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I was referring to Sir Edmund Hillary's expedition to Mt. Everest. Tenzing Norge was a sherpa who on the first expedition was a porter and carried the bags.

Uh, I do know who Tenzing Norgay/Norge was... I was not professing ignorance of the subject matter, merely of how it connected with the rest of what was going on. Thanks for the 'splanation though!

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>Bill, no matter how deeply the specialists "get involved" with their patients, at the end of the day they can go home and don't have to live with the direct consequences of the illnesses the patients have.

I can (and have) seen both sides of the argument here. A friend has recently given up her job as a nurse in Oncology as, after years of being on the outside, she got too overwhelmed by the suffering of some of the patients and the support that she had to give. Sure, she hasn't a colostomy but neither has she been able to function as a wife, mother and member of society for the past six months. On the other hand, she probably won't wake up every day with the same worry that another friend with MS has about being there for her children. It's not a particularly useful argument. I know enough doctors with their own medical problems to know that.


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how prehistoric women kept their infants warm in the days before they even had knives to skin animals.

Perchance they were just very much more hairy then? and/or concentrated (population-wise) in warmer climes? or used handfuls of grass/vines/other leaves?


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a nude/naked explorer on Mt. Everest

talk about yer shrinkage!


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Last from me tonight (this morning, actually, dammit!):

I'm really enjoying reading what people are saying about the nude/naked dichotomy, especially the distinction made about how you say both those words, and the warmth of the former and harshness of the latter. I especially liked of_troy's contribution from her art class experiences, and Alex's medical contribution.

I used to go to a doctor who, when he learned I am an artists's model, was embarrassed. This man used to, during my annual physical, uncover one breast at a time for that part of the exam. I found THAT embarrassing, since I always think of my breasts as a pair - was bemused to see the doc treating them so, um, prudishly? - I now have a more matter-of-fact doc who uncovers both breasts at once, which I appreciate (whew, they're both still there). I try to use the appropriate terms for body parts and functions but I dislike the word "anus" so avoid it if I can (though I've never said "butthole" either!). Interesting what one feels squeamish about and what one accepts with aplomb....


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RE:Interesting what one feels squeamish about and what one accepts with aplomb....

Well, its a two way street. finding a good fit between doctor and patient is never easy. some doctors use techinal terms to distance themselves, they aren't really sharing information, they are using words as jargon

other doctors talk down.. the best, for me, at any rate, are the slightly pendantic ones..

long ago, when i was pregnant, my ob/gyn started calling me Helen. i responded by calling him Harry. He was shocked, and corrected, Dr. Diamonde!-- and i countered If i am going to be called Helen, you are going to be called Harry and i went back to being Mrs. G....

it worked out well. by the very nature, you have an intimate, non sexual relationship with your doctor. to make it work, you need be establish some shared rules about communication.

young girls, who don't know the first thing about modeling, are often prey to con men, who want them to model, and then pressure them to model nude, and then, start putting their hands on the naked girls. because the girls don't know how to have a intimate, (and being naked implies some level of intimatcy) non sexual, they are often vunerable to abuse.
Doctors aren't (generally) con men, but its sometimes still hard to find commom ground for communications-- which rather neatly ties in to this being a word thread, and not titalation.


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>>I countered If i am going to be called Helen, you are going to be called Harry

Which is a perfect example of what I love about you, Helen. You go, girl!


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Interesting what one feels squeamish about and what one accepts with aplomb....


The word ‘anus’ seems plain in the nude,
Yet for some this word’s ugly or rude;
Though her modesty’s true
The Goddess prefers blue:
So she nakedly proffers her “bum”!



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