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#62453 03/27/02 07:46 PM
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"I need to renew my driver's licence next month."

not in my state! licence is listed as a (chiefly British) variant in US dictionaries -- and that is a U.S. list.

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Then I beg to humbly point out that your state is WRONG!

But this is how language evolves.

Advice/advise is another pairing like licence/license and practice/practise. You can take someone's advice when he advises you, or you can ignore it.


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License is the verb; licence is the noun.

My trusty, never dusty, Webster's says: license n. 1. A legal permit to do something. 2. A written or printed certificate of a legal permit. 3. Unrestrained liberty of action; disregard of propriety. 4. Allowable deviation from an established rule, form, or standard: poetic license.
v.t. To grant a license to or for; authorize.


It does not list licence what-so-ever, and I have never seen this spelling before today!

Even our own wonderful spell check turned licence into license.


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In the late nineteenth century the full cliché developed: He’s the very spit and image of his father, followed by the folk etymology that replaced spit and with spitting (or spittin’ or spitten) image.

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tsuwm, are you saying that the phrase originated in error, or that it is deemed erroneous in usage today?


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So, love, are you making it the 101st?

And the prize goes to ... Jackie, in a record time of only 6 hrs 5 mins and 11 seconds. [loud cheering-e]

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ycliu by plugging 'folk etymology' into OneLook to see the slightly different takes on the phrase. here is the OED reading: usually, the popular perversion of the form of words in order to render it apparently significant.

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My trusty, never dusty, Webster's

O God. Why do so many people use Webster's? Get thee to an Oxford!

I'd love to hear from the Antipodeans on this one. Is it licence/license down under, or always license?


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>O God. Why do so many people use Webster's?

'cuz Webster set us down the road of codifying American English, which is what we speak here, doncha know.

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#62462 03/28/02 02:29 AM
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H.L. Mencken (1880–1956). The American Language. 1921.
VIII. American Spelling
1. The Two Orthographies

http://www.bartleby.com/185/31.html

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