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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread . #5215 08/12/00 09:05 AM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 M Max Quordlepleen OP Carpal Tunnel OP Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: fiasco - how did "bottle" become "failure?" #5216 08/12/00 10:44 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky No, but welcome, Max. Care to explain your screen name? My guess is that the change came naturally, due to how very difficult it must be to learn to make one. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: fiasco - how did "bottle" become "failure?" #5217 08/12/00 10:51 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 315 Italy - Perugia is a town with... E emanuela enthusiast emanuela enthusiast E Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 315 Italy - Perugia is a town with... I never noticed this strange meaning: already in Italian "Fare fiasco" means to have a failure, to not succeed in something: I will check my dictionary, and I will ask someone. Ciao Emanuela Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter . #5218 08/12/00 11:50 AM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 M Max Quordlepleen OP Carpal Tunnel OP Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: fiasco - how did "bottle" become "failure?" #5219 08/12/00 01:49 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass I don't know too -- actually, the origin of this usage is unknown or obscure, but here's a link with a couple of fanciful possibilities: http://www.latin.about.com/homework/latin/library/blverbF-J.htm#fiasco Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: fiasco - how did "bottle" become "failure?" #5220 08/12/00 01:50 PM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 200 W william enthusiast william enthusiast W Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 200 i've heard somewhere that it came from problems in the italian wine industry. so many more bottles of certain wines were sold than made (and i believe still are sometimes) that a fiasco came to mean a situation where rules had no effect. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter . #5221 08/12/00 07:48 PM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 M Max Quordlepleen OP Carpal Tunnel OP Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,913 Posts229,315 Members9,182 Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011 Newest Members Ineffable, ddrinnan, TRIALNERRA, befuddledmind, KILL_YOUR_SUV 9,182 Registered Users Who's Online Now 0 members (), 253 guests, and 2 robots. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 29 A C Bowden 14 LukeJavan8 1 ddrinnan 1 Top Posters wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 tsuwm 10,542 wofahulicodoc 10,532 LukeJavan8 9,916 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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