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Dear Faldage,
I agree with you about Bill's point blank. How about dead on? Would that work as a plausible opposite?
And, T. Bear: "Bang on the button"? That a new term to me, and, somehow, unsettling....
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How about dead on?
I guess depending on how far you want to take opposite. The meaning of shot in the dark comes from the initiation, not the outcome. I should think the meaning of the opposite should also come from the initiation.
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Well, then, Faldage, how 'bout, "Gentleman, start your engines!"? That's at the point of, if not exactly initiation, well, then ignition, huh?
Logic, schmlogic, what a bore!
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Dear Faldage
Re "the meaning should come fron the initiation not the outcome"
I assume by that you mean to aim at point blank range (you could tell someone point blank - but that still doesn't say yer necessarily right - ya could be still shooten yer mouth off in the dark)
Could you not intend ta hit the nail on the head - before the outcome? If ya aim at point blank range ya may be initiaten, but there is still no guarentee that you'll hit yer target - what if ya have ta aim in the dark, fer instance? (there's many a slip...)
Besides, point blank isn't associated with guess work, as a shot in the dark is, so in a way yer mixen yer currency (taday is Euro day, by the way)
"An educated guess", though not quite close enough ta be an opposite, might perhaps be closer than "point blank".
So if, accorden to yerself, point blank is the closest and accorden ta me an educated guess is closer, then surely somethin closer than the closest has ta be right.
He took a shot in the dark - and missed
He aimed point blank - and still missed
He took an educated guess - and hit the nail on the head
Wordwind - sorry if I unsettled ya - bang on the button is a harmles phrase really, especially when ya get ta know it.
Be seein ya
GallantTed
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their eyes.
Is that how that went?
And, taking a shot in the dark, wanna bet that the board doesn't freeze up today with near everybody back at work? Of course, there are all of those lucky college students still at home, most of 'em.
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If ya aim at point blank range ya may be initiaten, but there is still no guarentee that you'll hit yer target
As there is no guarantee that you'll miss with a shot in the dark. You can take a shot in the dark and hit the nail on the head, you can shoot point blank and hit the nail on the head.
Now, "An educated guess" is in there, too. I still think I like point blank better.
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would a shot in the dark be similar to the modern phrase WAG
(wild ass guess?)
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Around here the cognoscenti call it a SWAG (=Stupid Wild Ass Guess)
BTW, whence the phrase "I'll fix your wagon"?
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Where I come from the S is for Scientific.
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