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#4995 08/13/01 02:00 PM
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While living in Mexico, I had many opportunities to squash those little, or some not so little, buggers. NEVER with my bare feet though[shiver]. Once during a power outage I heard a rustling in my kitchen and I had visions of them carting off my onions and tomatoes on their shoulders. That prompted "The Great Flashlight Massacre" that didn't end until the floor was covered with bodies. At another time I had a scorpion in a jar and fed him ala Norman Bates. (You know, guests from the Roach Motel).


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Dear Consuelo: there used to be a song about the cockroach being unable to walk because he had no marijuana to smoke. Did you try ripping off their bag?

La Cucaracha, la Cucaracha

Ya no quiere caminar

Porque no tiene, porque le falta

Limonada que tomar. (the last line has been changed from "marijuana que fumar."


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That song was a marching song, sung by the revolutionaries during the last Mexican Revolution. The last time I sang it was in Costa Rica the last 1 1/2 miles of a 5 mile walk on the beach, by the light of the full moon, after imbibing waaaaaaay to much scotch. It really helped! I accidently spell-checked this and it didn't recognise imbibing. Must belong to the temperence league!


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Ah--temperance as Max points out, a very politically charged word!

the US abound in them.. a hundred years ago, women were espousing Free Love, not the license of the sixties, but rather free love was a code word for reforming divorce laws -- divorce was such a taboo, they didn't want to even use the word!

One Temperance group came down a street filled with pubs, and tried to rally the drinkers with in to halt their evil ways.
an old cow, a bit worse for wear, staggered out, and seeing the uniforms, and musical instruments was moved to hand over a 5 quid!
the Temperance leader was thrilled, and asked, "which hymn would you like?"
the old cow looked over the motly crew, and announced, "(H)im there, the one with the big drum!"





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Dear of troy: Your evaluation of "free love" was rather narrow. For a more complete description see the URL:

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/1998/03/12feature.html

My favorite anecdote about free love is the legend that Isadora Duncan suggested to George Bernard Shaw that they have a love child. "Just think it might have your brains and my beauty!" GBS is alleged to have declined on the grounds that it might happen the other way around.


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the review of the book on Woodhull spoke of her many interest, sufferage, spiritualism and free love. it is hard sometimes to look at one movement with out being influenced by another. the free love movement uses the term free love, to promote the idea that love should be free and unshackled by law.

150 years ago, a woman, had no means to find cause (adultry) and even if she found it, no money or right to hire a lawyer on her own behalf, to sue for divorce. she was shackled to a man. (the further west you go in the US, the less this was true. Several of the western states had much more liberal laws) Divorce was so unspeakable, they used free love as code words. No one was then, and almost no one is now "In favor" of divorce. but we have come to see that it should be allowed. It is a rare thing to find someone who is happy about the idea of divorce. we might dislike our ex spouse, but feel sad that we ended up divorced.. divorce is unpleasant, (even if the thought of live with out our spouse is pleasant!)

just as, in this day and age, no one is Pro or anti abortion. the two sides have aligned themselves as "Pro choice" and "Pro life". abortion still has enough of a stigma, no one want to call them selves "Pro Abortion". and the other side, want to come across as positive, too, so they are not Anti anything, but Pro life.
It a good arguement. who wants want to come out and say they are anti life? Language is, and always has been used politically.

those of us, who have been members of "the fairer sex", the weaker sex, the better half, all know these terms (and others) are used to define women as different, less complete than men. they can, and are, used intimitately affactionately, (just as SWMBO can be), but the same words have been used to restrict women. we could do pages of them.. only some times, the users of the words are so sure, the words are OK-- and that women(or others) are just being hysterical.. they brush the whole thing off as being hyper Politically correct.

shade of what tsuwm said in another thread.. the words can mean what ever you want them too..


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Bien non, Of Troy, twas Humpty Dumpty said that...

click http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/maxq/ and scroll down.

(thanks MaxieQ)


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