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#49736 12/10/01 08:42 PM
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wwh's recent post on "karez" reminded me that i've been meaning to ask about "warez"...does the OED list it yet? what's the earliest citation? i've always pronounced it WARE-ezz, but since it comes from "wares" i suppose it's probably supposed to be pronounced the same (right?).

incidentally, atomica offers a delightfully comprehensive list of -wares:

abandonware adware beltware betaware bloatware boardware brochureware bridgeware censorware courseware crippleware crossware crudware demoware dribbleware evolware expireware feeware firmware freeware frontware grayware groupware guiltware hardware hookemware hyperware infoware liveware malware middleware nagware payware pitchware pushware shareware shelfware shovelware slideware software spyware stackware trashware treeware vaporware warmware wetware



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Must add:

aware, beware, and unaware

By the way, what do abandonware, betaware, bloatware, censorware, crippleware, crudware (!), dribbleware, evolware, grayware, guiltware, hookemware (!), malware, middleware, and nagware mean?

I can take a stab at the other ones on the list, but those gleaned above from gymkhana's atomica are puzzling.

Thanks in advance,
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Huh? Looks as if you misspelled Juarez.




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these 'wares' all look to be software jargon, and there is another word from that idiom which applies to "cracked" software, that being 'warez' (pronounced weirz) -- although why one would expect that to show up anywhere outside of a jargon dictionary is unknown to me.


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although why one would expect that to show up anywhere outside of a jargon dictionary is unknown to me.


does this mean it's not in the OED yet? at what point does a word lose the "jargon" label and be deemed worthy of mainstream dictionaries? warez is certainly known to any reasonably savvy internet user, and that accounts for a rapidly increasing portion of the general population. i remember some hazy guidelines offered by Wendelyn Nichols (was that her name?) in an AWAD chat last year that specified a certain length of time that the word has to survive before it's considered a word, and it also has to come from varied sources (do varied 'net sources count?). anyone have any more specific guidelines to share?


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in general, the general guideline for inclusion in any general dictionary is that the word must be in general use; that is, in common use in the public press and ordinary speech in both informal and reserved styles (such as those used in business) as distinguised from specialized lexicons such as those used in law, medicine, computer science, etc.

I don't think warez qualifies, as it is still pretty much limited to use by software pirates and understood by hackers.

let's take an informal poll regarding warez:
[ ] I have used the word
[ ] I've encountered the word and know what it means
[ ] I never heard of it before this thread


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Never heard of it before this thread.

...but that's why I come here.

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never.


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Never heard of it until this post. Now Juárez is a 'nother story altogether.


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