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Mission Statement: The Short Thread Society is founded on the principle that brevity is the soul of wit and it also saves a lot of needlework. All people are welcome here without regard to their threadnological preferences but we generally believe in sticking to our own knitting. In short: "Be brief and be gone." There is no current record for the shortest thread in AWADom, but there is likely to become one very shortly. That would suit us just fine.


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Nominees for shortest threads:

Elves
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and Terpsichorean angels on heads of pins


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Our New Shorter Motto: Less is more.
Self-evident truths: All posters are created equal. You can run on but you can't hide behind your post count. Rising rank can become an odor problem. In any case, noblesse oblige.
Our Patron Saint: Jennifer Lopez (in Versace); Conan (in loincloth) 4 the ladies ????
Words of wisdom: People who prefer short threads shouldn't open a shop for Queen size ladies or XXXL Men.
Our logo: The eye of an needle.
Favorite biblical inspiration: A puffy poster has as much chance of getting into heaven (or short-listed for the "Twiggies") as squeezing thru the eye of a needle.
Favorite Saying: A stitch in time saves nine.
Favorite Abbreviation: etc. (1 is enuf)
Favorite Latin Maxim: Res ipsa loquitur
Most Frightening Words in the English Language:
"I'd like to say a few words about ..."


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succinctness without sarcasm
reason without rancor
respect without self-righteousness
consensus without curtains
issues without personalities


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Rules? We doan need no steenkeeng rules!
Disagreement without disparagement. And wit, humor and fun ... above all.



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Anything to do with short hair?



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A quotation from Giosue' Carducci, an Italian poet ( about a century and a half ago):

A man who uses 14 words to say something for which 12 are enough... I believe that he is able to do the worst deeds.


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Sarcasm without pretension

issues without personalities Yeh, that'll happen...


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Violators will be condemned to an eternity in the Omegatist thread.


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Thanks for dropping by, tsuwm. I have a chance to apologize to you with fewer words, but no less contrition, than I did yesterday.




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Thanks for dropping by, tsuwm. I have a chance to apologize to you
And I do.I don't want to return to the Omegatist thread any more than you do.


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>>Thanks for dropping by, tsuwm.
followed shortly thereafter by...
>Thanks for dropping by, tsuwm.

this does n-not seem the w-way to sh-shorter threads, joe observed haltingly.


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Having liquidated the bourgeois omegatists, where are all the alphatists hiding?


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Got suckered into doing betatists?





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"A man who uses 14 words to say something for which 12 are enough... I believe that he is able to do the worst deeds."
He is certainly liable to do the worst screeds!
P.S. Thanks for setting me up with that, Emanuela. Does that make you my emanuensis?



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>>Thanks for dropping by, tsuwm.
followed shortly thereafter by...
>Thanks for dropping by, tsuwm.
this does n-not seem the w-way to sh-shorter threads, joe observed haltingly.

I guess you could say it is one drop de trop.




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where are all the alphatists hiding?
They're stitching their pitches, wwh. (Or perhaps they're sewing their oats.) BTW is it true that flat-liners have all the best one-liners?




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Or, for the more prolix ones like tsuwm,
throwing their wild oeds...

Just kidding, tsuwm. Jest in case you were miffed.

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Anything to do with short hair
a la Demi Moore in "G.I.Jane", TEd?
If that is your taste, you may get a buzz out of Demi's buzz cut at the link below. (I'm manely an admirer of long haired ladies ... in short threads. To each his own tresses.)

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/9990/gijane.html



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I saw somewhere recently that tresses meant braided hair, at least originally. I do not turn up my nose at hair that is short and curly, though it is only a memory now.


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I do not turn up my nose at hair that is short and curly
There is a word that describes a turned up nose, wwh. Not in the metaphorical sense but the actual shape. I think it is French. And, at the risk of stringing out this discussion, do you happen to know why people who disdain something are said to be "turning up their nose" at it?


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Word Weaver, love your spindle. You can weave a word with a tailor's touch. Getting back to those missing Alphatists: Do you suppose they are out knitting up their ravelled sleeves of care? (Nobody can trump Shakespeare.)


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I have seen noses retroussé, and I have seen people indicate their consummate satisfaction with their endowment and social status by aiming their snoots at the zenith. But distaste is commonly signaled by a moderate presentation of the nares. The vulgar may needlessly vocalize "Phooey". The aesthetes may indicate their detection of delicately communicative pheromones by an appreciative inhalation.


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The aesthetes may indicate their detection of delicately communicative pheromones by an appreciative inhalation
Little did I know! Amongst all your other refinements, you are also a connoseur. (Have you ever heard a phero moan? Or is that "just a memory" too?)


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Duhh - I thought that the short thread society was the underwear tailor's guild.


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I thought that the short thread society was the underwear tailor's guild.
You've come to the right place, Geoff. We specialize in designer briefs. We also thread where wise men seldom go.





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I have seen noses retroussé
Trust the French to pay homage to the architecture of a nose, wwh. We english, on the other hand, have "aquiline" noses, "Roman" noses, "button" noses, "pug" noses, and the hastily cobbled together "turned-up nose", and everywhere we turn our snozzer we encounter "nosey" people with their noses in everyone else's business and "brown nosers" with their heads buried up other people's rear ends. When we drink too much, we get a "snootful". If we think too much of ourselves, we are "snooty" or, worse, "snotty". Indeed, is there any other orifice of the human anatomy more systematically maligned in the english language than the nose on your face? The French, on the other hand, know better. I have read that the French think so much of their noses that the coveted prodigies who concoct their finest perfumes in spy-proof laboratories are called, simply, "Noses". When it comes to noses, wwh, we english haven't got a whiff of sense.


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A phero moan is vocal expression of a member of sex profession when payment is denied. At least, so I have been told. I was not merely a con-noser, Sixty eight plus one can be fun.

I think Faldage's empty posts are better than the legible ones.


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Faldage's empty posts
A man of few words. There is no higher compliment you can pay to anyone on this thread, wwh. It is said that "a word to the wise is sufficient". How much more profound no word at all? Now, a single letter, wwh. A single letter can break a poet's heart ... especially when one is snozzing with a con-noseur. For instance: zzzzzzz


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P.S. Perhaps he was just taking a post count. In any case, I got the message. Personally, I think we should honor this triumph of terseness ... with one niggling reservation, of course. An empty post should not contribute to the "official" post count ... however much it might contribute to our self-esteem. In any case, here is my honorific for an empty post: There is no adage like a Faldadage. They name celestial bodies after their discoverers. We should do no less for empty posters.


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Dear plutarch: In your scenario, "aaaaaaa" is exultifying, "zzzzzzzz" is stultifying. As a switch, I encountered a word new to me:
stull
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5prob. < Ger stolle, a post, orig., short, thick prop: for IE base see STILL16 any of several kinds of supports or frameworks used in mines to prevent cave-ins

Can you think of a stull useful in the tunnel of love? (Folks, remember I didn't start this. I am thinking of Love Canal, in New York, a site EPA was detoxifying.)



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okay, let's get this over with...

faldage is an im-poster
wwh is a bill-poster
this is my third(3rd) post to this thread... if I post again I will be a four-poster.

on the other hand, if I leave now, post haste, I will have, once again, committed apostasy. I think I may just do that and take up deltiology as a hobby. I should do it now and not postpone any longer.

-ron (pasquinade) obvious





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Dear tsuwm: a virtuoso performance. But is "pasquinade" your substitute for BrylCreem?


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pasquinade - [F] dance of the netherworld
:-/


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"I have seen noses," says dr. bill, discussing what the nose communicates.
It is said that a man may have a wanderin' eye or a Ro-man nose.


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I would like to say a few words about OEDies ... a subject which was mentioned earlier in this thread with something less than fulsome praise. Speaking for myself, I appreciate an OEDie which is threaded with surgical precision. In tribute to the golden OEdie, I have composed this brief paean which I hope will appeal to many if not to the allure.
Cognition without cant
Chant without rant
Mantra without manna
From the Top Bah-nana.

A wise man once said that next in honor to the originator of a quote is the person who deploys it aptly. While I confess I have felt overwhelmed at times by Pooh-pedantics, I have never been tsuwhammied by a good quote. Indeed, I have often been entertained and enlightened by them. And I hope to see more of them ... with one necessary qualification, of course. "Less is more".Which reminds me, I am overstaying my welcome. I think I will volunteer myself for penance in Pooh-purgatory. And we ALL know where that is. [Horrors!]


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Ester Ester Ester Ester Esteroides oides oides oides oides anabólicos anabólicos
anabólicos anabólicos anabólicos Los primeros esteroides anabólicos ...


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Dear wwh: May I commend to you my new "self-evident truths" only because I am living proof that "rising rank can become an odor problem". One should try to avoid being lynched on one's own thread.
P.S. I seem to be on the horns of a dilemma. If I continue to post, I will eventually become a Pooh-bah myself. Then I shall have only myself to kick around. I wonder, wwh, how you managed to retain your appeal ... without strutting your "allure".


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if I post again I will be a four-poster
Polemics, like politics, makes strange bedfellows, tsuwm. I have just now discovered your clever "ri-post" posted before my lamentable "paean". Makes me ashamed I posted it. I am unworthy of your forgiveness, tsuwm, but I ask for it just the same. When I came back here this afternoon to post my "Post Obitum", I wondered which was worse: Pooh-Bahnics or Plu-bonics. Now I have my answer. Its Plu-bonics. I have broken every rule in the book and I am hoisted on my own petard. Plu bids adieu to you, and to all.


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Faldage is an im-poster
BTW, Faldage is not an "im-poster", nor even an "un-poster" or a "non-poster". He is a phantom poster ... which makes him a "ghost poster" or a "ghoster" (for short). Adieu, Faldage.



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There is no current record for the shortest thread in AWADom

Adieu, Faldage.

I stand by my original post.



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To all bill posters, I say "Defence d'afficher ici." Faldage is not an imposter, he just marches to a distant drummer. So, plutarch, down omegatists, up alphatists. I am eager to be a betatist.


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I am eager to be a betatist.
And I am eager to become a pacifist, wwh. I have no idea what "stand" Faldage is taking, but I have offered no offence to him, nor he to me. Of this I am sure, wwh. One stand both he and I can agree on is that we have had a plague of bubonics of every description around here. And the thread is worse for the wear of it. I cannot pay Faldage a false compliment, but I cannot criticize him falsely either. For I know him only by his original blank post - which was surely outstanding - together with his "stand" on that "stand" (which, for all I know, remains outstanding). In any case, nothing I have ever posted was intended to reflect on Faldage personally. I'm truly sorry if he thought otherwise.








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The very long threads become an annoyance to flatliners because they start to take a prohibitively long amonut of time to load. I haven't done any great studies but I suspect that this might be alleviated by having fewer posts per page.
Dear Faldage: I have been trying to understand how or why, you and I, who have never communicated, seem to have mis-communciated so miserably. I can only imagine that it has to do with "flat-lining". Please believe me that until you brought this issue to my attention, it was pretty much "beneath the radar", if you know what I mean. In any case, it is my hope that our relationship will not be flat-lined over a "flat-line" which I can state, quite flatly, is not "my line". If there is anything I can do to open up the lines of communication, please let me know. In the meantime, may I assure you that I am flatly opposed to any "lines", flat or otherwise, which do not measure up to your expectations. Your last message was blank and my people are operating on the assumption that that state of affairs simply reflected your thinking at that time. I have no doubt that your thinking will crystalize in the fullness of time and I would like to make it crystal clear that I am fully in agreement with any initiative which will help you to crystalize your thinking.


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P.S. I have no idea who the Top Bah-nana is, but, please be assured of this. If it is an elective office, I will not stand for it. That is, I will stand in favor of the elective office, but not for the office personally. (Which is not to say that I will stand in favor of you standing for the office. That is really none of my business at this time, altho it may become my business, and the business of every other conscientous voter at the ballot box, but not before.) I do hope we have a thorough understanding here. As I have said, I do not know who the "Top Bah-nana" is (or "Top Bah-nanna", as the case may be), but I know who it isn't. It isn't me because I am not a "Bah-nana" to begin with. Nor do I choose to be. Nor will I stand for it, nor even run on about it if I am nominated. But I can say this, dear Faldage. Whoever the "Top Bah-nana" is, he should be very careful he doesn't slip on his own Bah-nana spiel. (I have heard it said that the road to aBah-mination is paved with good intentions, and it is a very slippery slope ... but please don't take my word on it. There are some things one is better off learning for oneself.)


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I have one last thing to say, dear Faldage, which I would like to run up the flag-pole for your consideration. It really applies to me more than to you because you haven't really had a lot to say, and I don't have the advantage of knowing your position (nor do I have the position which gives you your advantage). So, here it is, dear Faldage. People with bad manors shouldn't rock the castle.
I am not of the castle born, Faldage, but I do know this. The castle does not belong to the lords, nor even to your humble vassals (like me).


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Dear plutarch: you begin to remind me of the Indian in one of Abe Lincoln's anecdotes. The preacher had chided the Indian for loudly advocating a violent end to one of his enemies. The preacher said that if he prayed tor good things to happen to his enemy, it would bring down coals of fire on his enemy's head. The Indian prayed so loud and long for blessings on his enemy that the preacher finally asked him why he was praying so long. The Indian replied: "Me burnum down to stump."


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Very good, wwh. I was tempted to do something with that "stump" image but I have restrained myself. Your Abe Lincoln anecdote reminds me of another. Abe compared a pompous opponent he once knew with a little barge with a big horn which worked the Mississippi in his youth. Every time the barge blew its horn, it came to a halt. Lots of noise, no work. Also reminds me of a line from GBS (Major Barbara) but I'd have to look it up to do justice to the quote.


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And let Lord to the Manure born recuperate.


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And let Lord to the Manure born recuperate.
My cup runneth over with remorse, wwh, at any rate, I am sorry.
If AWADom was a monarchy, you would be my choice for King of the Castle. But, since it is not, could you give me an earl of your wisdom? To wit:
1. How does one become a peer of the realm, and does one have to be good at peering to qualify? Or is it a natural born talent? [Just kidding ... on both counts. I'm trying to get my manure together.]
2. How can you tell if a vassal is half-full or half- empty ... or, for that matter, just vassal-ating?
3. Can a vassal state a state of affairs to the state, or petition the state for a statement of its affairs, or otherwise complain that he is getting his knitting in a knot because he feels like he is being vassled, or, at any rate overly-vassaled, and why can't the lords tax someone else's thread every now and again? In the colonies, wwh, there is no tax at all without fair representation.
In summary, then, is there any hope of reigning in some of the mightiest lords for their threads are full and heavy laden with the fruits of many labors, whilst my poor thread is only heavy laden with their lordships. I would not presume to say that the peerage of my lords is fruitless, wwh, or their appearage either, only that my thread is fruitless and bears them little fruit. And oftimes I feel that I am being overly reigned-upon. That is all I have to say about the peerage, wwh, for the meanness of my tongue, which, by virtue of the title you have conferred upon me, has raised me far above my station, might cause me to offer offence where no offence was intended. Yet do I ask, wwh, if there are not greener pastures for the peerage to peer into, and also for their appearage ... tho I hasten to add that they are certainly welcome to peer and appear as they like. And, what is more, the more often the better ... if they come not to tax my coinage, for it is base mettle unseamly of their notice.
Having said so much to so little avail, wwh, may I leave you with this morsel of levity to ease the burdens of your heavy office? My gentle jocularity about the peers of the realm, brings to mind a British sex scandal many years ago involving a Minister of the Crown (who was also a peer of the realm), Profumo by name, and two very lovely ladies, of notorious virtue, Christine Keeler and Mandy Rice Davies. I'm not quite sure what happened to Mandy but I do recall that there was a rumor circulating at the time that she was found bobbing under a pier. In closing, wwh, may I assure you, that, whilst I come to you cup in hand, my vassal run is over. And we are all the better for it. All of which is respectfully submitted.



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plut, as lawyers like you and I say, let's look at the record.

Given that you have penned 28 (!) of the 53 previous posts in this thread, it semms just a wee tad inaccurate of you to say, my poor thread is only heavy laden with their lordships. ... I feel that I am being overly reigned-upon ... being overly-vassaled, ... tax without fair representation."

The facts appear to be contrary to you claim, plutarch. Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much. Perhaps you might rein yourself in a bit?

and btw, it is presumed -- without the need for futher comment -- that your Profumo reference was not intended to impugn the sexual morality of members of this board.


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a wee tad inaccurate of you to say, my poor thread is only heavy laden with their lordships.

Depends on whether you count number of posts, word count in posts or content.


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I propose a fiefdom, right here in the land of Miscellany, to be presided over by plutarch -- a plutarchy as it were. he could call it the Kingdom of Chatalot and he would be (per force) King Plu, the Perfect. he would be free to appoint all of his own courtiers; I envision a Duke of Earl, a Duchess of Kenspeckle, a Marquis de Sad le Lac, a Sir Gar de Loo, a Lady b'Goode.... mayhap I could be the curt jester or word fool -- but I presume too much.


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Hey, fellas, down more wine to mellow the mood. I hurriedly renounce any claim to precedence of any sort. And I swear on a stack of Bibles that I do not wish to offend anybody. All I want is lots of threads that may enable me to make ridiculous replies. Alphatists, where are you?


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Alphatists, where are you?

Rat cheer, Dr. Bill (see lipogram thread). And glad to be back, I think.

Meanwhile, some time ago there was talk about creating AWArDs for illustrious moments in this board's history: Best Pun, Most Interesting Thread, etc. I would hereby like to create the Best Exercise in Pointlessness AWArD and nominate this thread for it.




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Dear AnnaStrophic: I applaud your new thread, though I lack the talent to comment cleverly on it. Mes talents ont leur bornes.


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Given that you have penned 28 (!) of the 53 previous posts in this thread
Sew true, dear Keiva. And the dreaded thread-hold loometh ever closer. I am not a "gentlemen", dear Keiva, which seams to be your point, but I will surely try to act like one. Your example is, as always, instructive.


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Depends on whether you count number of posts, word count in posts or content.
I am content to rest on my content, Faldage, but I don't expect others to be content with that. And that is surely their right ... if not their peerogative.



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Please, more rec and less crimination.


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mayhap I could be the curt jester or word fool -- but I presume too much.
You do not presume too much, tsuwm. In fact, it would be seamly. But this one poor thread, peer-reviewed so poorly, is more than enough appearage for me. Alas, Chatalot does not hold any Allure for me. Still, I may peer in from time to time in prospect of seeing you make a jest of yourself.




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I would hereby like to create the Best Exercise in Pointlessness AWArD and nominate this thread for it.
I second your nomination, AnnaStrophic. Therefore, it would seem that there is very little point in either one of us returning. Alas, I do not have the good judgment to know any better. Nor, would it seem, do I know my betters.




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Mes talents ont leur bornes.
Your talents are more Sorbonne than leurborne, wwh. I know something about French accents, if not about the peers de la pays. May there be paix amongst the Poohs, wwh, as well as amongst their minions. Speaking for myself, I would much rather be a Pooh-Paix than a Pooh-Bah ... but it seems my thread will run out long before I get a chance to prove it. Nonetheless, if there is to be a pox on the paix, then I am apox-static.




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Dear plutarch: I have been expecting someone who knows more French than I do to tell me that "leur" should be "leurs". I don't know how to check that.And I have not the energy to check lipograms, which at first I thought were greasygrams written with fat. Or maybe short poems of Li Po. Alphatists, where are you? Down in the caverns measureless to man?


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I have not the energy to check lipograms, which at first I thought were greasygrams written with fat.
You mean they're not! BTW I am not the French scholar you take me to be. I studied French for 2 or 3 years in high school but most of what I learned has faded thru disuse. Alas. Mes talents ont leur bornes. Let's see. Freely translated, I assume it means "My talents are my burdens." Would that be correct? At least you don't hide your light under a bushel, wwh ... wwhich is probably why your talents are your burdens, n'est-ce pas?



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Dear plutarch: I could hide my light under a thimble. My modesty is not a pose but a painful necessity.I have a lot to be modest about. We do have a couple people who speak French, but they are not with us as often as I wish they were. Perhaps they may stop lurking if I let the mistranslation stand. I have been trying to find a way to make a post about salt, which is an extremely interesting but badly neglected topic. I have a URL about it, which is quite long, but has a lot of surprising facts.But no interesting words, alas.
http://www-geology.ucdavis.edu/~GEL115/salt.html


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Alas. Mes talents ont leur bornes. Let's see. Freely translated, I assume it means "My talents are my burdens." ...Plutarch

Plu, are you joshing here? Isn't the plural possessive for my consistently mes? Leurs would be their plural possessive, I think, if my fading memory of French 2 has any glimmer of light...

wwh: I have a great salt word just for you: haloid, if you don't already have that one. Mrs. Byrne listed it along with saxify, meaning to turn to stone. I wonder whether there's any sense in "Saxified into a haloid pillar" would be understood as a biblical reference? It really sounds more like a drunk, doesn't it?


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Dear WW: remember I committed another "YART" (another despicable early board put-down) in mentioning "below the salt" and saying I think it was dirty hands , not just low income that dictated the custom, because the salt was in an open topped box. I haven't been able to learn when salt shakers became common. And I knew salt was abundantly available for preserving fish.
I found a site that said Domesday Book listed a bit over 1100 places in England where salt for sale was obtained from saline wells or deposits located in shallow mines. But table quality salt was harder to get.That being the case, the hosts ought to have had a second inexpensive salt supply for us peasants.


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"Mes" and "Leurs" together are "meilleur", Wordwind, and your French grammar is indeed better than mine. But I couldn't make sense of the phrase without translating it muy libre. (There I go exposing my inadequacies in still another language.) Perhaps wwh will enlighten me on his quote. How does it translate, wwh? As to salt, I am a bit of a selebrity, if only by geographic association. I was born in Windsor, Ontario (across from Detroit), the home of "Windsor Salt". No kidding. We Windsorites are not only famous for our cars. You may have some Windsor Salt in your kitchen, Wordwind, but I suspect Dr. Bill is salt-free. In any case, it is clear I have come down in the world quite drastically. I was born on top of the salt in Windsor and now I find myself sitting below the salt. About YART. I have my cryptologists working on that one and the best they have come up with so far is "Yale Alumni Rarely Tell" ... which doesn't ring true, somehow. So what does YART mean? BTW are you sure about the origins of the phrase "below the salt"? I think the inflection is more low caste than "low income". In medieval times, anyone sitting "below the salt" was of lesser rank. The salt line marked the blood line, so to speak. Costain wrote about this in one of his historical novels as I recall. And I must leave you with one more salt tidbit. They are coming out with a variety of celery which contains its own salt. Its called "selery". How's that for convenience! Now you can have your salt without sprinkling your potatoes. And its all natural too. Its grown in Windsor. (I hope that doesn't make me a laughing stalk or I'm going to end up in the stalkade ... again.)


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YART = Yet Another Rehashed Thread. (NTTAWWT)

http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=14612

EXAMPLE:
Can anyone explain what a full monty is?



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I guess I deserved that, Musick. 20 points 4 that YART.
Those who live by the YART will die by the YART. At the risk of pouring salt in my own wounds, may I say that that is as it should be. A word, like a sword, drawn in anger, should not be drawn at all unless one is prepared to draw blood. And then it should be drawn only for something worth dying for ... figuratively speaking, of course.



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wwh: I found some great stuff on salt on a link below! There are photographs of salt crystals, some pink halite and one a colorless halite that has a blue cast. They are very beautiful, in some cases.

What was most interesting was the refining process, in which the mined salt is completely doused with water. When it dries, it forms something called a hopper. The link below will take you directly to a sketch of the hopper:

http://www.minerals.net/glossary/terms/h/hopper.htm

and this link will take you to a page that is loaded with information about salt:

http://www.minerals.net/mineral/halides/halite/halite.htm

That's the page where you can click on the photographs of the salt crystals.

I do want to read about the salt mines in Ireland...

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Now what did I do? Anyone who believes a YART is other than a blunt object wielded to prod the slow moving (and simultaneously amuse... or at least try) has a distinctly different approach to language than I... but then most people do.

I have noticed, in recent months, a propensity for self yarting more than any other kind... but, then again, I haven't been around the board enough lately to post those time saving links for the collective to assimilate...

Oh, and just in case this comes up again (like in about 20 posts or so)... at work I have 8-10 times the average dial-up connection speed... so I generally won't spend the frustrating moments that the WorldWideWait has ensnarled most of the people here into... my empathy is reeling.


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Oh, and just in case this comes up again (like in about 20 posts or so)... at work I have 8-10 times the average dial-up connection speed...
Then we can be assured of swift justice, musick, and may I say, I welcome it. I'm getting tired of throwing all the YARTs around here.


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Dear WW: Thanks for the links. One important peculiarity of salt is that its solubility does not increase very much with heat, so that where it can be mined, that is more economical.
I was really baffled a year ago by story Mitsubishi wanted to put an enormous salt production plant on shores of Gulf of California. But there was reason to believe it would endanger whale breeding there, and it was cancelled.
Incidentally, "halite" name derives from Halle, Austria where it was mined thousands of years ago.
Dear Plutarch: your "selery" could be worth millions in phytoremediation in many areas of world that desperately need desalinization.


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Dear Plutarch: your "selery" could be worth millions in phytoremediation in many areas of the world that desperately need desalinization.
Indeed, wwh, that would be a bit like turning salt into gold. Isn't it true that at one time salt was so rare that it was used as currency. This would give new meaning to my coinage. But, one drawback, wwh, who would want to eat their Selery? They would certainly want to stalk up on it. I envision vast stalkpiles of Selery, wwh. Selery, Selery everywhere, and not a stalk to eat.




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this link will take you to a page that is loaded with information about salt
Dear Wordwind: It is not really for me to 'tut tut' you about this, because I am a selebrity in name only. In matters of select taste, I refer to His Exselency, our own wwh (who deserves to be selebrated more often). In any case, one never invites someone to go to a link which is "loaded with information about salt". In salt circles, the unsalinated are sent to a link which is "salted with information". And those who don't have the good sense to go are sent to the salt mines.



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Plu, your Saliency, I will defer to your correction and heretofore will do as bidden. I offer you a salty dog (with its tail tucked between its legs) as a consalition.

No salt salts like morte tongue's salt salts

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No salt salts like morte tongue's salt salts
Your selection is selubrious. I couldn't have salted it better myself. Morton might have something to say about it, however. He may think your phrasing is selacious, but he cannot accuse you of taking his name in vain. For you have taken his name, but not in vain.
P.S. Morton may think you have poured wounds on his salt, but where I come from, it is only fair comment. "Windsor Salt" may not pour when it rains, but it reigns supreme ... amongst people who fancy their salt, of course. Personally, I am not one of them, wwh. I abstain from salt altogether as I am told that we get more than enough of it in our regular diet and too much is not good for one's blood pressure. If this sounds like a seditious thing for a selebrity to say, wwh, I am sorry. But surely one can savor a thing without tasting it ... just as one can have fond memories of a thing which is "only a memory".




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"Mama's little baby loves shortnin', shortnin',
Mama's little baby loves shortnin' thread..."


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Your wish has come true.
P.S.That is the best YART I have ever seen thrown around here, bar none, and it deserves appropriate recognition. In fact, this is a YART of the highest art! (We ALL should take YART lessons.)

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A YART thrown with force can add to the score,
but a YART thrown with art can settle the score.
Plutarch falls on his sword.


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Dear plutarch: your local salt sellers should complain to EPA about Morton ad suggesting halide pollution is something to laugh about. That brat girl ought be severely punished for spilling so much sodium chloride for so many years.


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A tangent on salt--not that we adhere to tangential thinking here. Egad!

wwh, isn't it true that people with very low blood pressure benefit by a slight increase in sodium? Mine runs at about 60/90, not that I'm asking for free medical advice or anything like that...

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Dear WW: I am eminently unqualified to give medical advice. I have been retired for about twenty five years, and have made no effort to keep up, and have forgotten a lot. There is a lot of evidence that salt restriction is very beneficial in most forms of hypertension. I am unsure what the blood pressures you give may be caused by. But I would hope you have a good doctor and take his advice. But you have given me something to do. I am pleasantly surprised by the amount and quality of medical information on the Net, so long as you totally avoid the alternative medical idiots. Internet, here I come.


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Dear Wordwind: I put my foot in my mouth on your "Pronunciation" thread earlier today, and I am just stopping by to apologize officially. I am sometimes confused with the General who leads your war effort. That is certainly unfair to him. For one thing, he has a masterful command of all 26 letters of the alphabet while there are only 6 letters in my little squadron (and one of them is AWOL most of the time). Furthermore, I can't even string a single word together, apart from the acronym "iou" which is something of a liability. So, I offer my abject apologies to the real General, as well as to you and anyone who visited your thread before I was able to make my retreat from my dim-witted pun. Before I return to my duties in the alphabet, may I explain that altho I come from a country which supports the American war effort fully, my country isn't on the front-lines as you are, and we haven't got any Generals at all. In fact, our military capability is about as limited as my vocabulary. I know the rest of the alphabet will expect me to run the gauntlet so I must be running off. For whatever its worth, I think all posters are created equally as well. We have had a few dust-ups in the alphabet just like the ones I have seen here at AWADtalk. Actually my cousin George wrote a book about it called "Alphabet Farm". Anyway, we solved the problem by electing a few capital letters at the upper end of the alphabet to protect those at the lower end. You don't have a whole lot of friends to turn to when you're at the bottom. The ones in between can pretty much fend for themselves. They don't feel like strangers. Of course, that's not really any of my business and I've got problems enough of my own right now.


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Dear General Vowell:

I must admit I haven't paid much attention to the pronunciation thread. When the front lines started discussing aunts and ants, I decided this battle sounded more like a Sunday picnic, so I shipped myself back to the Serengeti to visit my old water horse friends. tsuwm tried to teach me how to improve my usage of thetical, but I became so excited about seeing the springboks, wildebeests, elephants (with their genuine elephant ears for flapping in the wind for ready perusal), giraffes, and (oh, stop, my beating heart) hippopotami, that I didn't notice anything you'd said on the pronunciation thread.

IOU a look there, General, on the thread, but far be in from me to criticize much from my vantage point. Keep in mind: I am a southernly-blowing Wordwind and have the turbulent accent to prove it!

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I am a southernly-blowing Wordwind and have the turbulent accent to prove it!
There is no turbulence in your accent, Wordwind. As I said, its really none of my business. I won't be back. I've caused enough disturbance in one day. And, Plutarch. He won't be back either. He's a mess. He looks like that Proctor fellow lying under the cot when Prot returned to K-Pac. Comatose as a cabbage.



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I am a southernly-blowing Wordwind and have the turbulent accent to prove it!
Whoa, I'd better get my eyes checked--for a second, there, I was wondering how a wordwind could have a tubalent accent.




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Good Morning, Jackie...

I just checked tubalent on OneLook and came up with nada. What would tubalent mean, if it's not a word, and, of course, what is it if it is? It sounds rather brassy to me.

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Dear WW: just to be preposterous, a couple of guys in my unit in Philippines were "tubalent" all the time we were on Leyte. This was intoxication they claimed was induced by "tuba" which was fermented cocoanut milk made by the natives. But when we had to move our supplies by ship to go to Manila, it was discovered that in spite of having been in a chickenwire protected enclosure, all of the five gallon cans of laboratory alcohol were empty. Evidently a pole with a nail had been used to puncture them, and a pole with a cup used to catch the contents.


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wwh, thanks for that great story about the coconut concococoction...

The coconut tuba isn't in my AMH I have here at school. I'm on my lunch break, so I'll do a Google search to see what comes up, if anything.

I did think you'd enjoy knowing the the derivation of coconut (or cocoanut) goes back to the Portuguese word for "goblin," I just learned. The Portuguese word is "coco," but the accent is too small in my dictionary to make out; that "coco" can mean grinning skull, goblin or coconut.

I know recipes aren't allowed, but I'll hide one here: Drill out the eyes of the coconut; pour out the milk; mix coconut milk with lots of vodka; pour back into shell; put a bit of aluminum foil into the holes and sealeach one with wax; by Christmas, if you do this Thanksgiving, you will have a very nice coconut liqueur.

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Lucky I remembered language on Leyte was "Visayan". Using that, I found a site:

2.The Cebuano Tuba
... guides us to the old Visayan culture of drink. The early Visayans knew five basic
kinds of alcoholic drinks. The most popular was tuba, the fermented sap of ...
http://www.esprint.com.ph/pointcebu/culture/drink1.htm
More Results From: www.esprint.com.ph

I haven't looked at it, but I bet it will not say fermentation was allegedly induced by urinating into juice.
That may have been a ploy to keep us from drinking it. It sure deterred me.

Postscript: Dear WW; in answer to your PM about interdict, I am reminded of a post quite a while ago that you may have missed, and might amuse others who have joined recently:

1.Hugh Gallagher's 'College Essay'
... with my sensuous and godlike trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles ... my yard. I enjoy
urban hang gliding. ...
http://public.logica.com/~stepneys/joke/essay.htm



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Hi folks, I'm George Vowell, Collin's cousin. Collin was kind enuf to put in a plug for my book "Alphabet Farm". Frankly, the book hasn't been selling all that well lately. Truth is, it never caught on with the rest of the alphabet. So I'm working on a sequel, "Alphabet Manor". Anyway, this was an unscheduled appearance, so I won't take up more of your time. Collin would send his best but I think u have already seen it.



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Dear George Vowell: Are you an alphatist in disguise? Guising ended a couple weeks ago. It is getting cold and we need new threads. So start a few.


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What would tubalent mean, if it's not a word, and, of course, what is it if it is? It sounds rather brassy to me.
You got it, my dear! Not only was I thinking that a woodwind could not sound "tuba-lent", I have never seen a Wordwind create tubalence.


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Jackie, to get the drift of your musical riff, I had to try a double reed...

Woodwind, developing her embrochures on blowing the coconut tubalentioso


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Jackie, to get the drift of your musical riff, I had to try a double reed...
Oh, I'm sorry--I should have made it clear enough for you to get it the first time...


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