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#47264 11/11/01 11:55 PM
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Dear Teddy Bare-It-All:

Please edify me about:

Could it be anyhin ta do with Cecil - the God of luck...

...this god is news to me, but then my brain is fried having read articles on education all day. I hope you'll be sympathetic...

And the other Ted: I enjoyed your Cecil B. DeMille story. I wish you'd punish us a bit more often.

Best regard,
WasteWind



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Howya Wordwind

Me syntehtic ear is always open ta them in trouble.

Ya see, Cess is short fer Cecil (the god of luck)
That makes Cess the god of luck.
Through causual reference Cess (or Cecil) becomes synonymous with luck.
Hence "bad cess ta ya" = "bad luck ta ya".

I might add at this point that I made the whole thing up about Cecil being the god of luck. I could equally have said that he was the god of hair days. I don't really know anybody by that name.

One things puzzles me though about the whole etymology of the expression "bad cess to you". Ya see, if the explanations given by meself and tsuwm are true (they come from "reliable" sources) and the expression dates back to centuries ago, there is no allowance given fer the fact that the Irish householders in question wouldn't have spoken English - unless, of course, it was the English settlers who originally used this phrase. Has anyone any thoughts on thi sissue (pardon! the bubbles from the fountain of knowledge have gone up me nose)

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Gallant Teddy,

In deference to the bubbles from the fountain that are going up your nose, may I suggest that you study pegomancy? A fortune in understanding could lie with that endeavor.

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Dear Westwind: in looking up pegomancy, I found a word "scrying" which means divination by gazing into crystal ball.


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Dear Windy

I saw that one comen.

Peg O' Mancy was a good friend of mine once but the bubble burst. So I took up with Clare Voyance instead. Alas, she left me in runes - but that's another story.

Then came Peg's sister, Lith O Mancy. She was once the light of my life but she then scalded me bad. After that I took up with Pam S Tree - ya have ta hand it ta her cos she really loved me - but I got cold feet in the end.

G E O' Mancy was too down ta earth fer an intelligant bear like meself so I ran off with her cousin Molly Beedee but she just blew hot and cold.

Now I'm all alone and scryen and these days I perfer ta read a good book.

Omen ta that

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Are you sure you're not Ted Remmington, Gallant Ted? You two sure do have a lot more in common that your names...

And what about xenomancy and lecanomancy? There are fortunes to be gained in those arts, too...or lost fortunes, as the case may prove to be.

ListingWind Neither Ted can resist the urge to make a pun.


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wwh: "For scryin' out loud!"

...That's what you say when the fortune teller reads the crystal ball and reveals things to the audience that you wished had remained crystallized.

DumbDumb


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I haven't laughed this hard in oh HOURS! My favorite of the O'Mancy sisters was Neck'r O'Mancy. That gal could just take your breath away (not to mention your tongue).

I think, though, that I may have met my match. Someday soon I may have to hire The Who to sing, "...I just handed my punball crown to him."

This GallantTed guy is a master. But us old salts will try to find a way to topgallant. Remember the mainsails!



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Dear GallantTed: in looking up something else, I ran across the Gaelic names for the seasons. Please tell us how they are pronounced:

These festivals came to
be enjoyed during the four quarters of the Celtic year: Earrach,
spring; Sambradh, summer; Foghara, harvest; and Geambradh,
winter. To these, of course, we have to add the Christian festival
of Nollaig, Christmas.


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Howya WWH

Them is the four seasons all right: samhradh, fomhar, geimhreadh agus (and) errach.

Regarding pronounciation people in different parts of the country pronounce Gaelic words differently, and as ya can imagine everyone thinks their version is the correct one (Connaught Irish, Ulster Irish, Munster Irish)

Here's Ted's effort and if I'm battered ta death by a band of vigilante Gaelgoirs (Gaelic pendantics), be it on your head.

Samradh - (very roughly) sow-rah
Fomhar - (ditto) four
Geimhreadh - (ditto) giv-ru
Errach - (ditto) ear-rah or ear-ock

The seasons themselves were not festivals, but each one was marked by the following feast day:
Bealtaine - May 1
Lughnasa - Aug 1
Samhain - Nov 1
Imbolc - Feb 1

GT


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