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Dubya:

Maid. No. Wait. That's a person who dusts studies. Never mind.

But a person who studies winds is probably a meteorologist. As opposed to a skinnierologist.

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coniologist: one who studies dust

anemologist: one who studies wind

palynologist: one who studies pollen and spores, esp. fossil


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I don't know what you call it, but I calls it a Flockhart.



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An 'ologist' reference? No. Palynology is an existing word, a branch of palaeobotany; the others are just coined in the Greek words (konis 'dust' had me racking my brains for a few minutes then came to me).


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I emailed USGS Center for Coastal Geology scientist Gene Shinn, and received this response:

"People usually talk about aerosols, which would cover dust but true aerosols can change from being liquid, like salt dissolved in water or rain but then turns to salt crystals when the water evaporates. So we came up with a word "aeropolvology"; polvo is spanish for dust so we assume it is probably also latin. You know this cold stick and you can say you had a part in it!! Have fun and check the 4 page info sheet on dust in the website below. Gene

http://coastal.er.usgs.gov/african_dust/

(so i guess my pulvology guess wasn't so far off after all )thanks A!!


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Forgive me if I am hijacking this thread prematurely, but I think there are quite a few words for winds of different seasons in many parts of the world. For instance "Föhn". You could look it up. Allegedly it is associated with serious emotional disturbances.


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For instance "Föhn". You could look it up. Allegedly it is associated with serious emotional disturbances.

Ah, that does explain a lot.

As for the dust thing, I'd plump for "historian" or "archaeologist". Laterally.



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ouch ouch

Doesn't the budget run to staff linguists any more?


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M-W on line (http://www.m-w.com/) accepts * for wild cards. "*ology" nets you 290 entries. Happy hunting.


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I think there are quite a few words for winds of different seasons in many parts of the world.


Not to blow hot and cold, but.

I understand there is a southern wind in France called the mistral and that jurys tend to be more lenient for crimes of passion committed during "La Mistral."

In Hawaii, the Kona wind in October also sets people on edge and much testiness is forgiven when attributed to the "Kona Winds."
Any other local contribution folks?


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In Calgary and SW Alberta, there's a wind (or maybe more like a mass of warm air) which comes over the Rockies and warms the place up in the dead of winter. It was +20C on Christmas there one year. It's called a "Chinook" which is, I believe, a Native word. When the chinook comes, it pushes the clouds back in the sky and this is called a chinook arch. (Here's a great photo: http://www.nucleus.com/~cowboy/Misc/Chinooks.html)


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Cool link, Bean. I always wondered about how Chinooks formed, ever since I read "Mrs. Mike" as a girl.


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I get to tie two threads together!!!

Harken back to the discussion of how an air conditioner or refrigerator works. When cold wind comes down a mountainside it compresses. When it compresses the heat energy that was in it at the top of the mountain is more concentrated. Hence the air is warmer. Chinooks are quite common in the Denver area as we are on the lee side of the Rockies. Chinook means snow-eater in some Indian language.

The opposite wind, one blowing up the hill, turns very cold because the air is expanding as it goes uphill. The dreaded upslope in the wintertime in Denver often leads to huge snowfalls since the expanding air is less able to hold water so it falls out of the sky as snow. This happens a couple of times a winter when a low pressure mass moves across the Rockies down around the Colorado NM state line. The counterclockwise swirl of the low pushes warm moist wind up the slope out to the east of us and the air turns cold and dumps huge blizzards on us. I remember one on Christmas day 20 years ago that dumped more than an inch an hour on us for almost two days.

Thank God most of our electric lines are underground, so loss of electric power is not a huge problem.

This particular snowfall led directly to the Denver mayor's losing the election the next fall because he couldn't get the streets cleaned of snow.



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In Chicago (particularly in the black community), the biting winter wind coming off Lake Michigan is called "The Hawk".


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This particular snowfall led directly to the Denver mayor's losing the election the next fall because he couldn't get the streets cleaned of snow.

The same happened to Chicago's Mayor Bilandic (successor to Boss Daley), following the New Year's snowstorm of 12/31/78 to 1/1/79. Largest single snowstorm in the city's history, I believe, subject to LIU.


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NYC will sometimes be hit with a big snow storm when cold canadian winds hit warm tropical storms come up the east coast-- and in 1968 Mayor Lindsey lost his bid for re-election after he decided it was OK to postpone digging out queens-- forgetting that Manhattan might have the most money, but queens has the most voters.. (high percentage of registered voter, and generally highest percentage of turnout.)

Should we have a sub thread on mayor who lost elections because of snow storms?


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New England has only one wind worth mentioning, and it does not have an impressive name. But some terrible blizzards start that way, and in old days caused tragic ship-wrecks. Some of the old-timers swore it made their arthritis flare up. One such would not get out of bed if his weather vane visible from his bed indicated wind from north east. Some kids hitched a string to it, and he stayed in bed for two weeks, until bright sunshine convinced him of a deception.


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Went to a quiz night the other night and learnt that "sirocco" was also a wind. This came about in the "Guess The Jumbled Place Names" round - clue being Sirocco cured pork meat. (Wyndham - in the far north of Western Australia)

Oh - and the quiz itself....we led for a few rounds but fell at the post due to our lack of knowledge of classical music. (well, I WAS sure that Beethoven wrote the William Tell overture. - Who's this Rossini guy anyway - what'd he ever do?) Our team had to console themselves with prizes that consisted of bottles of red wine, packets of popcorn and a video shop voucher. Sounds like a good night in the making!

Quiz nights are a very popular form of fundraising in W.A. but hardly heard of in the eastern parts of Oz. What about where you are?

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Quiz nights are quite popular in Adelaide too.

Returning to winds: the Fremantle Doctor is a common occurrence during a cricket match at the WACA (Western Australian Cricket Association ground). Then there's kamikaze. And ... nah, that'll do.


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Went to a quiz night the other night and learnt that "sirocco" was also a wind.

Nonsense! It's a coffee bar that stays open late at night. It's situated at the bottom of Dowling Street in Dunedin and is currently owned by a very nice Dutch couple ...

Quiz nights are very popular in Zild. Damned near every pub runs one at some time or another. The New Zealand Computer Society used to have a fair number of them as fund-raisers. I usually got roped into coming up with the questions and answers. As I am reminded every time I watch "The Weakest Link", people are so damned igorant about such basic things .... !



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snowfall led directly to the Denver mayor's losing the election the next fall because he couldn't get the streets cleaned of snow.

MAny years ago the mayor of Cambridge was taken to task for doing nothing to get rid of the very deep icy ruts in the city's street. His response :"God put it here and God will take it away." And sure enough He did ... in April!
And the Mayor was re-lected ... go figure!

And Dr. Bill : those snows that can dump two to four feet of snow on Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont and Massachusetts in 24 hours is a Nor'easter (a/k/a "The Montreal Express.")
(And this Northern New Englander ain't lookin' forward to any this winter lemme tell ya'.)


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wildwinds,

fwiw, there are approx. 900 -ologys in OED2, discounting mob psychology and the like. none of these seem to have anything to do with dust (based on the reliability of the search engine).

[it would be fairly easy to list them all; not so easy to define them...]

p.s. - in addition to khamsin itself, there are several entries which mention it; e.g.,

Strong southerly winds are specially hot and unpleasant, and they are distinguished everywhere by local names such as sirocco, chili, khamsin. {from chili, An oppressive hot southerly wind which blows in Tunisia.}

Her steadfastly sunny outlook even in the middle of a ghibli (khamsin or sirocco, by any other name as blinding and painful). {from gibli, A local name in Libya for the sirocco.}

The Mediterranean area also is the home of a hot, searing, dust-laden wind off the Sahara, known in various localities as sirocco, khamsin, leveche, or samiel. {from leveche, A hot, dry, more or less southerly wind of south-eastern Spain, the local counterpart of the sirocco.}

...also sharav and simoom.

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Thanks, tsuwm, for your seemingly unending will to research. I had heard of some of the winds you listed, but a couple were new to me: the chile and leveche. What made the chile interesting was the fact that it is a wind of Tunisia--and I know of no strong Spanish presence in Tunisia, which is northern Africa. Do the Spanish heavily populate Tunisia, I wonder? (I'm not asking you tsuwm to research any further!! You've done a great deal already--I'm just curious about the Spanish presence in Tunisia.)

There should be a book of *ologies.

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Tunisia being Francophone, it's pronounced shili. I guessed it'd be Arabic, but in fact it's Berber.


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Well, until there's a better word, I heard from a professor at the University of Miami who wrote about what to call those who study dust, so I thought I'd wipe the dust off this old question from last week. Here's what Dr. Prospero writes:

People who study dust are usually scientists whose research focuses on the
properties of suspended particles in the atmosphere. They are typically
refered to as "aerosol scientists", an aerosol being a fine suspended
particle in the atmosphere.


Professor Joseph Prospero, University of Miami

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Thanks for the memories, Consuelo. "Mrs. Mike" was one of my favorite books (when I was a great deal younger) but I haven't thought of it in years. Have a feeling if I look hard enough I could find my much-read, brittle-paged, taped-together paperback somewhere in the attic. Would be interesting to read it again from my current vantage point in life.


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But a person who studies winds is probably a meteorologist.

Aw, TEd, you got it wrong; a meaty urologist is a corpulent physician.

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the four winds of ancient times, i.e. Boreas, Auster, Euros, and Zehpyros? We've been anthropomorphising winds for some time, it seems, and it gets really personal when we realise that the air is more turbulent around state capitols - at least in the US!

One more wind: The Santa Anna, a dry east wind off the Mojave Desert that blows into Southern California..


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will not prick your finger.



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Here's a list of the dust and winds we've mentioned:

from Mrs. Byrne
khamsin n. -- an Egyptian dust storm

from Geoff:
Boreas
Auster
Euros
Zehpyros
The Santa Anna Edit: Santa Ana Thanks, Bill = a dry east wind off the Mojave Desert that blows into Southern California..

from Dr. Propsero
aerosol scientists = scientists who study dust & aerosols

from Gene Shinn via Gymkhana
aeropolvology = coined word for study of aerosols and dust

from wwh
Föhn". = a wind causing emotional problems

from wow
La Mistral = southern wind in France
Kona winds = October winds in Hawaii

from Bean
Chinook = winds in Calgary and S Alberta
Chinook arch = black clouds in an arch

from Keiva
The Hawk = biting winter wind off Lake Michigan

from Stales
sirocco = cures pork

from wow
The Montreal Express, the Nor'Easter = New England

from tsuwm
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sirocco = hot southerly wind which blows in Tunisia
chili
khamsin = these first three from tsuwm he describes as being strong southerly winds
leveche samiel = strong, southerly, hot, dust-lade winds of southeastern Spain

from Stales
"The Fremantle Doctor" = a strong sea breeze we get in Perth in summer

Wordwind = a sometimes northerly, sometimes southerly,
often multi-directional body of sometimes hot, sometimes
cold, usually phlegmatic wind of random words batting each other in patterns that completely defy all known studies of thermodynamics. This wind, which emanates from Rocky Run, VA, USA, often brings symptoms of mania and/or depression in the human beings and other unfortunate creatures it encounters. Acts of rage resulting from contact with this wind are never litigated.




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Forgive me, but "Santa Anna" should read "Santa Ana"
The Santa Ana is a hot, dry, dusty wind in southwestern California that blows westward through the canyons toward the coastal areas during spring and late fall. The wind has its origin in the relatively stable, high-pressure weather system called the Great Basin High that usually exists over southern Idaho, Utah, Nevada, and eastern California. The Great Basin High is characterized by a slow but giant clockwise flow of air that is prevented from expanding eastward by the Rockies and westward by the Sierras.


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"Offshore" flow occurs when the pressure is higher over the land than over the ocean, often resulting in north-east winds over Southern California. This is also referred to as the Santa Ana effect, or the Santa Ana winds. The terrain here often enhances the offshore breezes because as the winds are forced through the narrow canyons, they increase in speed. This is referred to as the Bernoulli effect. This is why during Santa Ana's, some places will have winds exceeding 50 mph and others will have almost nothing

http://www.kfwb.com/news/local/santaana.html

Thanks, Bill. Now to consider the Bernoulli effect...

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BERNOULLI EFFECT

The pressure is lower in a moving fluid than in a stationary fluid. This effect is called the Bernoulli effect.
If you put the convex side of a spoon into a smooth stream of water from the faucet, you will feel the
spoon pulled into the stream. The higher pressure outside the moving fluid pushes the spoon into the
lower pressure water.

A ball balances in a stream of air from a blower. The ball is strongly held in the lower pressure stream of
air.


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Subject: Re: a meaty urologist

will not prick your finger.


But might proctor the "ology" quiz?

On another note, I recently found a business called Viagrafix. I read it as Viagra fix. It must truly be an upstanding business.

BTW, Wordwind, you left yourself off your list of winds! Aeolus would be miffed!


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Dear Geoff: you are confused. An urologist does not prick your finger, he does vice versa.

And a proctor stands behind you during his exam.


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To Geoff: Thanks for the heads-up; I'll add myself.


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ww - as stated by another poster - you must add "The Fremantle Doctor" to your list - it's a strong sea breeze we get in Perth in summer. It's blowing outside as I type.

("The Doctor" is a fast moving (say 25 knot), hot wind. Without it, Perth in summer would be like living in an oven. With it, Perth in summer is like living in a fan forced oven!!)

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And I am sobbing up a stormwind that nobody noticed my vice-versa.


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>And I am sobbing up a stormwind that nobody noticed my vice-versa.

or, perhaps, politely igoring the obviousizing of teD's bon mot.
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"Igoring" is behaviour not in my lexicon, nor in WNW. And your wind is not as musical as Stravinsky's.
Your princely "igoring" is "borodining".


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>There should be a book of *ologies.

windwallah,

I googled 'list of ologies' and found a handful of sites with (short) lists. the best of the lot is
http://www.everythink.co.uk/science/T0001_ologies.html
but it doesn't even have loimology!
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igoring - 1) the practice of robbing graves for the purpose of frankensteinification 2) the composition of ghastful music

-ron o.


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"Biting the dust" used to be the classic cliché for demise of Indian at hand of dead-shot Cowboy. However the Indian maidens never bit the dust,nor were they round-heeled.They stuffed the jade gate with the dust.


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Thanks, tsuwm, for a more useful *olological listing.

Anemology at least covers the windy studies, but, off the top of my head, I can't imagine why bryology is the study of Moses...

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Dear Whirlwind: You have to be kidding about bryology being study of Moses. He was original rolling stone who gathered no mosses, but did not get to be botany eponym.


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wwh: Heh, I was just citing the site! Here's part of the list I perused:

Balneology - Natural and medicinal baths
Biology - Living organisms
Bryology - Moses
Campanology - Bells
Cardiology - Heart function and disease
Carpology - Fruits and seeds


http://www.everythink.co.uk/science/T0001_ologies.html

...as submitted on an above post by tsuwm.

Next question, well, if bryology is the study of Moses, then what do you think a bryophyte might be?

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And carphology is the study of lint. Well, almost. Carphologia can be symptom of mild acute brain syndrome such as my oldest daughter had during severe measles, trying to touch illusionary objects floating in front of her.


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Carphology is the study of lint? Wow! Well, that's got to be a branch of the study of dust if we could ever agree upon what that study mite be....

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mite study just about tops the list = acarology


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Dear Water Witch: Your "balneology" reminds me of elevator operator in Medical Building of BCH in forties. He smelled bad enough he could have been chemical warfare agent. But he had political connections, so complaints were fruitless. But one resident was outstandingly resourceful. He got on elevator, and kept looking at the Mephitus mephitus, and then looking away hurriedly when operator noticed him.
Finally operator demanded: "Wy you looka at me dat way?" The resident said in a surprised way:"Hasn't anybody ever told you you have a severe case of nowasheenuffie?" "Wats dat?" " A very serious condition that could turn into skin cancer." The operator had been around enough to know what "cancer" meant, and he would have turned pale, except dirt layer hid it. "Waddo I do about it?" The resident wrote out an Rx for Sapo mollis, well rubbed in, and removed with lots of water.
The stink went away, and operator was proud to continue fighting his nowasheenuffie. He was getting treatment.


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>Carphology is the study of lint?

actually, carphology is the picking at bedclothes that is an affliction which troubles delerious patients or those that suffer from dementia (also called floccilation).



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Yes, Nor'easters are the classic monster storms that rage up the East Coast from the Gulf and can be more formidable than hurricanes. In fact, the Great Storm of '62, or the "Ash Wednesday Storm," which hit us in March of that year, was the worst storm of the 20th Century for us (UCLIU)! It stalled over the coast, as these gales often do, but this time it stayed for 4 days through 8 high tides right on the Spring Tide, the astromically high tide on a full moon that reaches full zenith only a couple of times a year. The ocean met the bay inundating all the barrier island towns, hasn't happened since or before in historical memory...it was a disaster! Devastated the entire coast. 'Course, I believe the Hurricane of '38 was the storm of the century up New England way (wow, wwh, am I right about this?). But, yeah, nor'easters are no fun in these parts. I remember one in December of '82 that was blowin' 90 mph steady with higher gusts, and the house wouldn't stop shaking...amusement soon turned to fear. After that I ain't stickin' around for any hurricanes Cat 2 or higher!


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And "Rhe:*ology is the study of fluids in motion or flow in solids


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Hurricane Alice is the one i remember-- back in 1971-- Faldage will remember it too, it he was living up state then-- it stalled, just south of NY, lost alot of power, but picked up moisture.. NYC was flooded -- but upstate got it even worse.. places like Corning NY had massive floods-- the river flooded and water was 6 to 8 foot deep in town. and most of Corning is a high bluff-- not in true "bottom land" -- last time i was there, (about 10 years ago) some building still had "water marks" visible.

the Gulf Stream current directs warm water up the east coast, and across the Atlantic-- southern ireland sports tropical american palm trees-- the seeds travel 2000 miles before hitting land.. and many a hurriicane travels with the warm waters of the Gulf stream.. the warm water keeps the hurricane active.. if we are lucky, a nice high pressure system from the west drives the hurricane out to sea.. Unlucky-- an a Low, and it moves inland.. Obviously, the further north you go, the better chances you have..

the hurricane of '38 was called the Long Island Expressway (In NY at least)- it raced across the middle of the island, and on up into NE and nearly washed away all of Rhode Island-- a place that it joked has 10 counties at Low tide, but only 3 at high tide. part of the problems was the storm had remained out at sea, and no one knew it was coming.. so no precautions had been taken at all to evacuate low lying areas.


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Dear WO'N:In 1938 we didn't even know it was a hurricane until after it was over. Rain had softened ground so roots of big trees worked loose and huge elms were across the road in many places. The chainsaw was not yet available, and it was over two weeks before some roads were passable again.


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I remember Alice quite well. It washed away whole graveyards in northern PA (Wilkes-Barre et al.) and the coffins were found for miles downstream. Grisly.

There is a story about the hurricane of 1938 (this was before we started giving them names.) A fellow in NE had just brought a new barometer home and he couldn't get it to read anythign except "hurricane." He took it to the post office to mail it back and when he returned home the house was gone.




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Since hurricanes on the US East coast are spawned by tropical depressions, could we just seed the clouds with Prozac?


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Or mass-medicate all residents of the Tropical Zone with Prozac.


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Do you have any idea how much that stuff costs? I hear it is quite expensive (I work in a drugstore). Maybe now that there is a generic(saw the e-mail at work this morning) it could be more cost-effective to throw it up into the clouds. How about over Afghanistan?


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Dear Consuelo: As if I was trying to make drug stocks going up. I was just trying to avoid an air pollution problem.


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Dear Consuelo: As if I was trying to make drug stocks go up. I was just trying to avoid an air pollution problem.


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Please! Is there anything you can do to make MY stock go up? Pretty Pretty Please! I figure I only need about 5 more splits before I can retire to someplace warm on a beach where everyone calls me Consuelo (off in my own little dreamland-e)


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Prozac over Afghanistan? Could rename the nation Prozakistan.


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wwh wrote : In 1938 we didn't even know it was a hurricane until after it was over.
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True! I was nine years old and had about 10 days of no school before the electricity was restored. Mother cooked on a coal fired old black stove that she had providentially insisted be connected in the cellar "in case of emergency!" A very forward looking woman, my Mother. The furnace was coal fired so we had heat.
In the '70s storm I was a reporter in our Seacoast town when I got outside I sunk up to my hips in the snow ... really. Got to work courtesy of a friendly snow plow operator. Only three came into the office. Two were "children" of newspaper families. The third one eventually became a managing Editor. He had grasped the main fact of newspaper life : when things are at their worst is when we were most needed at work.
I could go on for three pages about the ensuing week, including anecdotes about how the Fire Department "lost" a pumper because of flooding by tides and snow, while trying to evacuate people living next to the marsh! But enough! More than you wanted to know.


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Prozac over Afghanistan? Could rename the nation Prozakistan.

This in a country whose main export is opium? What's the point? Now if one were to use Viagra it would be Cockystan. Oops, I'm sounding like Dr. Bill!


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Maybe it would be better if they made love not war. But what would it do to our guys? And how would it help us catch bin Laden?

Incidentally, there seem to be unwelcome changes in way Board works. When it works. Real flaky today.


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Doesn't sound like it needs Viagra


Edited a minute or so later: Sorry, Geoff, I didn't read the post above correctly. Tried to delete this and was refused permission.


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I remember having been haunted by a description of a maelstrom in a short story possibly by Edgar Allen Poe, but my memory is very vague on this point of authorships.

In the story, a boat is pulled down into a maelstrom off the coast of a Scandanavian country, I believe.

Anyway, are the winds partly responsible for this phenomenon?

We've listed lots of winds, but have we mentioned cyclones, twisters, tornadoes, and other general windstrosities other than the hurricane? (Hmmmm, I wonder what a cane has to do with a hurricane? And does the hurri have anythin' to do with hurry? Actually, having witnessed many an ADHD actor back stage looking for a prop, I can imagine the panic over needing a cane for an upcoming chorus number and being in a hurry to find the cane...)

Best regards from
Poor Wordwind whose computer crashed this morning...This one's a slow one I'm on that the retailer loaned me till mine's fixed...I repeat: Always back up everything with floppies; always back up everything with floppies; I didn't...)


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Dear WW: the maelstrom is not something WhirlingWinds do not create. Here is a URL about it. Not very long.


http://www.ub.uit.no/northernlights/eng/maelstrom.htm

Commiseration on computer collapse. But backing stuff up on floppies is I think obsolete. If I had much stuff I wanted to back up, I would get something that could hold a hundred megabytes. Can't even remember name of thing.Here is a mile long URL about the gadgets:
httphttp://windows.berkeley.edu/hardware/pcstorage.html://windows.berkeley.edu/hardware/pcstorage.html



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Oh, many thanks, wwh, for the link to the maelstroms, the "ocean's navel." There was mention of the Poe story I had remembered, "Descent into the Maelstrom."

On my crashed computer: The worst part are all of the things I had copied and pasted, terrific pictures and bits of text, and hundreds of rare words I enjoyed studying. I will mend my ways.

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WW-- i didn't follow dr. bill's link, but he is right about floppies.. CD burners have been come so reasonable, and blank cd's can be found for about $0.25-- more expensive than a single floppie, but since they replace so many! the are really cheaper.

but just incase.. open your Word processor.

In WP look in Tools-- Settings--> files and set your default file folder for WP doct, and set a default back up to A:/ and then make it a habit to keep a floppy in the drive..

in Word, Tools, options--> file locations.. you can also set up an autoback up to A:/

then you don't have to remeber-- every time you do a save/ the program will try to save to A:/ and remind you to install a blank disk..
if you get a CD burner, leave that as your backup..


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New England also has the dubious distinctinction of having borne the wrath of one of the most fabled hurricanes in recorded history...The Great September Gale of 1815. Here's a couple websites, wow, and all you other New Englanders, that should be of interest.

Maine Hurricane History http://pages.prodigy.net/cotterly/history.htm

New England Hurricanes
http://pixie.geo.brown.edu/esh/QE/Research/CoastStd/NEHurric.htm




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A modern-day traveller braves the maelstrom and the corryvreckan and brings back pictures to prove it:

http://www.smithsonianmag.si.edu/journeys/01/aug01/feature_full_page_1.html



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I went back and read some old threads and came across the regrettably short one y'all had discussed about Tod Sloan. That sent me looking online for tod, and then to toddy, and toddy to arrack, then to rack, and under rack I found something else blown by the wind, so I thought it might find a nice comfy place here:

[what else?]RACK, n. [See Reek.]
Properly, vapor; hence, thin flying broken clouds, or any portion of floating vapor in the sky.
The winds in the upper region, which move the clouds above, which we call the rack


Sorry--I couldn't post the link because it appeared to take up too much room...

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RACK, n. [See Reek.]
Properly, vapor; hence, thin flying broken clouds

Ah--not likely that rack could cause ruin, then...


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Ah--not likely that rack could cause ruin, then.

Jackie! It was you who, in Miscellany, requested that we refrain from such stuff in Q&A! Thus rack shall wrack your request!

I shall refrain from mentioning that of late US males have used rack as a slang term for the contents of a brassiere.


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"I shall refrain from mentioning that of late US males have used rack as a slang term for the
contents of a brassiere."

Dear TEd: Thanks for a nice example of paralipsis (thanks, gymkhana)

And one of your "racks" with more than two prongs would not be endeering. Nor a place to hang your hat.


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Geoff, so considerate of you not to mention that rack...

Jackie, we both know, being female, that one of the rights and privileges of our fair sex is the right to turn on a dime in changing our minds. You may have been literal in your above post, however.

Those bug shields on the front of sports cars are sometimes called bras, aren't they? I think it sounds gross..

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I had opportunity to do some research on the original topic, and I discovered that they are particularly intense in the three weeks preceding the vernal equinox. Hence:

March khamsin: like a lion.



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Ted: Thanks for your ever-bright research efforts.

and: ...goes out like a Landlash (whirlwind in Scotland) tried hard to find a wind for goes out, but this was the best I could do, although it messes up the parallelism, not to mention the entire sense. Oh well...at least it's another name for a wind

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Jackie! It was you who, in Miscellany, requested that we refrain from such stuff in Q&A! Thus rack shall wrack your request!
Yup--rushing through and got careless, again--a frequent comment on my school report cards. Sorry, folks.


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Well, Jackie, if there's one thread through which you can rush, it's gotta be one about the winds.

Here's a great list I quote in full, several of which we have mentioned here:

"Aejej In Morocco, a whirlwind in the desert.
Aquilo In ancient Rome, a northwesterly wind.
Bad-I-Sad-O-Bist-Roz In Afghanistan, a hot and dry northwesterly wind from June to September.
Carabinera In Spain, a squall.
Chinook In US, Native American meaning "snow eater", a downslope wind heated by compression.
In Southern California, a "Santa Ana."
Cat's Paw In US, a breeze just strong enough to ripple a water surface.
Chi'ing Fung In China, a gentle breeze.
Chocolatero On Mexico's Gulf Coast, hot sandy squall colored brown by dust.
Crivetz In Romania, cold northeasterly blizzard wind.
Elephanta On India's Malabar Coast, southerly gale marking the end of the wet season.
Euros In ancient Greece, sultry, wet wind from the east.
Haboob In Sudan, a dust storm followed by rain.
From the Arabic habb, "To blow."
Hayate In Japan, a gale.
Hippopotanimus In Kenya, wet wind from the south
Kadja In Bali, a steady breeze off the sea.
Kohilo In Hawaii, a gentle breeze.
Kolawaik In Argentina, southerly wind of the Gran Chaco.
Kubang In Java, a chinook.
Landlash In Scotland, a gale.
Mamatele In Malta, a hot northwesterly wind.
Mato Wamniyomi Native American (Dakota), a whirlwind, dust devil or tornado.
Moncao In Portugal, a northeasterly trade wind.
Papagayos In Costa Rica, a cool wind from the north.
Pittarak In Greenland, a wind from the northwest.
Quexalcoatl From the Aztecs, a wind from the west.
Samiel In Turkey, a hot, dry wind.
Santa Ana A California style chinook. (warm or hot dry downslope winds)
Shawondasee Native American (Algonquin), "lazy wind," from the south in the late summer.
Sirocco In North Africa, a wind from the desert bringing hot, dry weather. Many local names.
Suestada In Uruguay and Argentina, a strong, rainy gale.
Sukhovey In Mongolia, a warm, easterly dust storm wind in the Gobi Desert.
Tokalau In Figi, a wind from the northeast.
Vind-Blaer In Iceland, a breeze mentioned in Icelandic sagas.
Vind Gnyr In Ancient Ireland, a blustery thunderstorm downdraft.
Whittle In England, a wind gust named when Captain Whittle's coffin was upset.
Xlokk In Malta, a hot, dry wind.
Yamo In Ugandda, a "wind in a body" whirlwind.
Zephyr In Italy, a mild breeze bringing pleasant weather.
Zonda In Argentina, a chinook in the Andes Region."

http://www.soilsci.ndsu.nodak.edu/Enz/ss217/winds.html

...well, I did slip in one that wasn't there....

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And for the Grand Finale, the breaking wind of Le Petomane:

http://www.retroactive.com/jan98/petomane.html


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wwh, have we hit the mighty one hundred tonight (or this morning)?

Your link on Le Pétomane is the most bizarre account I've ever read, both as a teacher and a musician. Now, we do have brass players come to our school occasionally, and one of them plays a brilliant, rocket-fast piece on a garden hose--no pistons, all variations of pitch done with his lips against the mouth of the hose--

But nothing like your link! I am stilling laughing over it--read both pages. And I wonder why there was no mention of him in the summer film, "Moulin Rouge"? That film was so wacky (and I thought wonderful in many ways) that Le Pétomane would have fit right in--right next to the windmill.

Gosh, just when you think you've heard it all...

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Nobody's mentioned that Aeolus, god of the winds, had four titan assistants, one for each wind. He also had a girlfriend named Mariah. Upon introducing her to the titans, she inquired as to their purpose. Said Aeolus, "They call the winds, Mariah."


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Geoff, if that wasn't a bit of synchroncity. To wit: I was just thinking of the song "Mariah" as the tenth page was downloading here. I thought, "Hm, there's Mariah in the song, and Tess, I think...were there any others mentioned?"
And then I read your post.

Are there any others mentioned in that song?

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Anything more about Mariah would be "moria" (Courtesy of the Phrontistery means "folly".)


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What's this phrontisery stuff?


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Re: -mancy boys



http://Phrontistery.50megs.com/divine.html Here is a URL to a very large number of
"mancys" They do include "ossomancy" .


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Here's the link to phrontistery itself:

[ulr]phrontistery.50megs.com/index.html[/url]


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"Hm, there's Mariah in the song, and Tess, I think...were there any others
mentioned?"
And then I read your post.

Are there any others mentioned in that song?


I haven't heard that song in about twenty years, but I recall that Joe was fire, Tess was rain, and then there's that sister of yours, WordWind. Even though I'm a snobbish classical music fan, I've gotta admit I really liked Frankie Laine, who did "Mariah."


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Geoff, I, too, am a big classical music fan. I don't think of myself as being a snob; however, no music compares to classical (used broadly here, but I know we understand each other).

I also enjoyed that old recording of "Mariah." Haunting and melliflous with that driving undercurrent of rhythm that captured the movement of a wind. Thanks for Tess and Joe.

Best regards,
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PS: wwh, this poor old thread is about to die. Three away from the scythe of the Grim Weaver Reaper


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Good point, Max, but I wonder whether there's any wind in the sails and perhaps we've hit the doldrums...

Best regards,
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With this post, this thread is dead. It's three sheets to the wind (or three sheets in the wind), though I still don't understand exactly how that looks in sails.

I wish I had a way to print all the 100 posts out, but I only get the first page.

Wistfully winded over many enjoyable reads and thankful for the humorous and edifying replies,
Windy


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