Wordsmith.org: the magic of words

Wordsmith Talk

About Us | What's New | Search | Site Map | Contact Us  

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
#46629 11/05/01 03:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
W
wwh Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
Dear tsuwm: The illustration was very nice. But the machicolations pictured appear to differ from the dictionary definition of holes in a floor of overhanging projection. Actually the ones in the illustration look more useful.


#46630 11/05/01 03:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
W
wwh Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
I have not seen many pictures of castles with moats. I wonder how they kept the moat full, unless a nearby brook could be diverted. Castles were sometimes located on small islands to make them hard to attack. But more often they were on high places which are easiert to defend. Of course an abundant xource of stone was essential. And building them on a big rock meant they could not be undermined.But a well had to be available where enemy could not get control of it in a siege.


#46631 11/05/01 03:54 PM
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
bill, the def. which goes with the illustration, from MW10, reads something like this:

an opening between the corbels of a projecting parapet or in the floor of a gallery or roof of a portal for discharging missiles upon assailants below -- see BATTLEMENT illustration


#46632 11/05/01 05:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
W
wwh Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
Dear tsuwm: Sorry I missed that bit of text. It does make a lot more sense than the dictionary definition I quoted. The openings shown would be much more useful.


#46633 11/05/01 10:49 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296
W
Carpal Tunnel
OP Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296

#46634 11/05/01 11:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
W
wwh Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
http://www.finelot.com/pages.php3/114 Sorry it makes the screen go wide.

Dear WW: the above has a lot of pictures and text about English castles. As a small fee for providing it, please tell me what in hell a "gloriette" is. I saw the pictures, but could not tell what it was.


#46635 11/06/01 12:41 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296
W
Carpal Tunnel
OP Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296

#46636 11/06/01 12:50 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296
W
Carpal Tunnel
OP Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296

#46637 11/06/01 01:37 AM
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
...and here's what the Professor (or was it the Madman) thought about gloriette: Hist. [a. F. gloriette. Cf. Sp. glorieta.] A highly decorated chamber in a castle or other building. Also attrib.

?a1500 Obituary in Willis Monastery Christ Ch. Canterb. (1869) 107 note, Edificavit turrim quandam, cameræ Prioris vocatæ La gloriet contiguam.] 1839 Longfellow Hyperion i. vi. (1865) 30 Rodolph's ancient castle, with its Gothic gloriette and fantastic gables. 1884 Athenæum 13 Sept. 330/3 Besides an Oriel or a ‘Gloriet’ Tower, a mediæval castle contained many a ‘cruel habitation’


I had pictured something like a crude palace inside the castle walls. have we mentioned the keep? (also known as the donjon, to distinguish it from the modern sense of dungeon.)


#46638 11/06/01 11:30 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296
W
Carpal Tunnel
OP Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296

Page 2 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Moderated by  Jackie 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Statistics
Forums16
Topics13,913
Posts229,317
Members9,182
Most Online3,341
Dec 9th, 2011
Newest Members
Ineffable, ddrinnan, TRIALNERRA, befuddledmind, KILL_YOUR_SUV
9,182 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 706 guests, and 1 robot.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters(30 Days)
Top Posters
wwh 13,858
Faldage 13,803
Jackie 11,613
tsuwm 10,542
wofahulicodoc 10,534
LukeJavan8 9,916
AnnaStrophic 6,511
Wordwind 6,296
of troy 5,400
Disclaimer: Wordsmith.org is not responsible for views expressed on this site. Use of this forum is at your own risk and liability - you agree to hold Wordsmith.org and its associates harmless as a condition of using it.

Home | Today's Word | Yesterday's Word | Subscribe | FAQ | Archives | Search | Feedback
Wordsmith Talk | Wordsmith Chat

© 1994-2024 Wordsmith

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5