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#44717 10/18/01 07:00 PM
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oh, there's a list someone could start: verb forms that have gone obsolete while the noun hasn't. and verse vice'.


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verb forms that have gone obsolete while the noun hasn't. and verse vice'.

Then we could revive the disused portion and get accused of verbing nouns or nouning verbs.


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>Then we could revive the disused portion and get accused of verbing nouns or nouning verbs.

oh, that happens to me all the time!


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When I was just a kid, I used to go into Alexandria, VA on the bus to wander around town in the summertime. One of my favorite haunts was the courtroom of Nicholas J. Colosanto, who was probably 5 feet tall, swarthy, and a real riot on the bench. One day a regular "customer" got his usual $15 fine for drunk and disorderly, but apparently his hangover got the better of him. He ran from the courtroom, screaming, "I'm not paying the fine, you spaghetti-eating SOB." The bailiffs brought him back and Nick gave him another $25 fine for contempt of court, and admonished him, "Had you been chaste and refined, you would not have been chased and refined." I was 13 or so, and I was the only one in the courtroom who laughed. Which resulted in an invitation from the judge for iced tea at the local lawyer hangout around the corner after court was over.

Sadly, some years later, Nick was assassinated in the front door of his house when he answered a knock at the door. The murder was never solved.





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geez teD, you need to warn us...




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> Nicholas [J.] Colosanto

I haven't IMDBed it, but as I recall that was also the name of the guy who played "Coach" on Cheers (although the J is questionable). Any relation, do you know?


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I spent some time reading the dictionary over the weekend and came up with the following list of words in which re- is used as an intensifier. If you would quibble you have ample opportunity with this list as most of them do not have corresponding re-less words.

rebel
rebuke
receive
recite
reconnoiter
record
recruit
recuse
redact*
refer
refine
refrigerate
refuge
refuse
regale
regard
regret
reinforce
relate
relax
relieve
rely
remain
remark
remedy
renegade/renege
repel
repine
repose
reprehend
repress
reprimand
reprove
repugn
require
research
resent
resist
resolve
retain
reveal
revere
revile
reward.

*In this case the prefix is red- but that is a Latin alternate where the d serves some phonetic function.


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The first citation for iterate in the OED is from 1533, the first for reiterate from 1526.


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Far be it from be to go off-topic, but.

How many of y'all actually® *read the dictionary? I look up a word, my eyes hit another word, I read that entry, I see something else, I read that, and as often as not, I forget what I was looking up. But I don't sit down and *read* a dictionary.
the day Faldage starts reading the phone book is when I'll really start to worry.....


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...starts reading the phone book...
Its worse than a russian novel.. all those characters, and no plot!


as for the dictionary, i used to sit and read it*, but i don't much do that any more.. but i do sometimes go scurring about, letting one word lead me to another. and when i get a specialty dictionary.. i do tend to sit and read it.. but i never sat and read the OED.. (to heavy to hold, and the font was to small to read with it sitting in your lap)
* i loved reading the dictionary as a child.


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