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dear wordcrazy,
I think that what some of us have objected to in the past is the kind of propaganda for a cause [shalom] that we have been subjected to. some of the rants in this thread could be so characterized as well. there are a myriad of other boards you can go to for that. but that's just *my opinion.
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Most people on this board,if not all, are well-read, intelligent, and decent people. Even in the rants of some of them I see a benefit--an enlightenment of others point of view. (Know thy enemy) I trust the people here are not naive to swallow everything they read, even here.
And you say there are other boards for this kind of debate. Yes there are but if someone does not have the time to peruse all the boards that are out there, or not trust them, and if a thread on this board comes along that offers a democratic discourse, what is the harm?
One can always hijack a thread if it so objectionable to them. If we allow some word games here (which I enjoy) but does not add an iota to "word knowledge" (with exceptions of course) surely we can have room for politics where words (is) an important tool and where our democracy can flourish or die.
IMHO
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Aye, there's the tub - whose democracy?Again, I reiterate...read Thomas Paine's Common Sense... that democracy! 'Twas the way it were supposed to be! And, at least, they won't have to worry about funding for the George W. Bush Presidential Library... They'll only have to buy one book! 
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Once again, dear Max, your knowledge outstrips mine--who's Marat, please?
And--I hope you weren't hurt when you slipped in that tub...
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Done in by a woman - tush, tush, sweet Charlotte.
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I believe Marat was a big noise in the French revolution. From memory he was a fan of Mme Guillotine! ("Chop off her head" cried the Red Queen) He was killed by a woman when bathing ... his sweetie?
I remember a rather famous painting of the scene. Marat in a free-standing tub and a woman behind him, approaching with a dagger ... or has my memory gone bye-bye?
Just showing off, Jackie. I had a French teacher-of-history very "up" on the French Revolution!And even at that see how little I recall. Ah, well.[/white
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yes-- i think Marat would be forgotten, except for the haunting image of his death. i remember the table, at the foot of the bath, and the darkness, of the scene, and Marat is holding a book, (or has it fallen? is it just below his arm? which is hanging out of the bath? is his murderer in the shadows? or is it that we see from his pallor that he is dead?) and yet, the image of the death of Marat is so strong.. Joan baez did a song, too, about Marat--is any one have more luck than me in googling? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * one image-- but not the one i was thinking of.
the one i was thinking of, had Marat facing the other way- head on right side, feet on the left..
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/jdavid/p-8marat.htm
but "death of Marat" in google search final brought up a 1,300 sites..
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The murderess was Charlotte Corday, I believe.
Bear with me, this ties in. My way of visiting an art museum is unusual. I will stride quickly from room to room (doubtless appearing a philistine) until I find one piece that "sings' to me - and then will long stay and study that one work, for half an hour or more.
I believe "The Dearth of Marat" is the title of a truly marvelous painting I thus viewed in the Louvre: Marat lies alone, slumped in the tub with him arm limp over the side. He is bleeding to death, and has lapsed into semi-consciousness.
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