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#37048 08/01/01 09:33 AM
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Rod, my bad. I shouldn't assume for all English! Résumé in US English means C.V. The former is used more in the corporate world; the later, in academia.

And thanks for the clarification on 'double entendre.'


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Résumé in US English means C.V.
It can mean C.V. in UK English too, and presumably comes from "a summary of my career", but it is often used to mean summary or synopsis in other contexts as well.

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So submitting Archer's c.v. in application to the judiciary will lead to summary judgment? unless it's winter, when he would claim protection of the Santa Clause

OK, your honour, I'll go quietly now, there's no need for the strait jacket...


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Re: "a question like "Have you got a pen?" is actually a request to borrow a pen rather than a simple question about whether you happen to be in possession of one."

Not in my house-- we all ways treated such questions literaly--we would reply "yes, i do" and want for the "can I borrow it?" or if they questioner was very slow, look at them surprized and say "Oh, did you want to borrow it? I'm sorry, i thought you were taking a survey!"

if friends called up and asked "is Emily home?" we would reply "Yes"-- "Was there anything else you wanted?"-- and after a moment-- they would realize they had to ask "Can i speak to her?"


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Oh, boy, another opportunity to talk about H.P. Grice and his cooperative maxims. I strongly believe in the maxim of relevance. and I believe our society depends upon it quite heavily. I do realize, however, that many cultures and subcultures are much more literal, blunt, straight-forward (or whatever other adjectives you'd like to add). For example, in the Deaf community, (for you, J) people are more like Helen's household where being exact and literal is beneficial.

Though, Helen, I have to add that even when they would realize they had to ask "Can i speak to her?", you could still answer that they can, for they haven't yet asked if they may.


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I had not thought of the problem that of troy discussed as a double entendre, though it is obviously the most common form of it. It could also apply to the problem on one's first date, when it is stupid to ask for a kiss, which not only requests information that one's face will not be slapped, but requires implied admission that it would be agreeable to the recipient.


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Actually, my kids would hear me say "Yes she/he is." and come running over to the phone and pull it out of my hands.. I used the can/ may I after they were trained to ask-- So if a caller had learned not so ask "is Emily home? but asked "Can i speak to Emily"-- then we started on "Yes, you seem to have mastered speech, I suspect you can speak to her as well as you speak to me..." she thought i was the meanest mother in the world to subject her friends to this sort of interegation.

And we always wanted to meet her friend Me-ann, too, as in "Me-ann Connie are going to the library.. "-- and she learned to say "Connie and I ..."


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Since I never heard of H. P. Grice before, I found a site about his maxims. I chickened out very quickly however. Anyone interested can take a look at this URL:

http://www.ling.su.se/staff/hartmut/griceil.htm


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AnnaS...do you ever use Curriculum Vitae instead of resumé? English people in Québec will use only Curriculm Vitae or the shortened versions, Curriculum or C.V.


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bel, everyone I know at home uses résumé. Until I read it on this board, I had never even heard of c.v.


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