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#35464 07/13/01 10:34 PM
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~Galileo Galilei, marking also a shift in the axis of cultural power from the catholic south to the
protestant north of Europe...


" It didn't move! "

Dear Max: I have seen it stated repeatedly by competent historians that scientific advance in Italy came to a standstill with Galileo's punishment, and science in northern Europe became and remained pre-eminent.


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Max,

I* saw it and fully appreciated your subtle wit.


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eppur si muove

Thanks for the link, caradea! A fascinating and disturbing read. I mailed the page to my best friend's wife, a biogeneticist...eager to hear her reaction!


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All this discussion reminds me of a quote of Gandhi's which was incised in the stone next to the front entrance door of the India Pavillion at the NYC 1964-65 World's Fair. Imperfectly remembered but the essence is there.
"There go the people. I must hurry and catch them up, for I am their leader."
link to a description of the Pavillion. http://www.peacethroughunderstanding.com/6465/international/intpav18.shtml


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Another link about Gallileo, by a Catholic history professor. I think he is understandably a bit biased. For instance he refers to Gallileo's protracted house arrest as "discipline". Perhaps other board members might be interest to read his arguments, and judge their fairness.

http://wwwacn.cornell-iowa.edu/~wcarroll/eppursi.html


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Max--again I am in awe of your capabilities, Dear One.
Please keep "attempting" your humour, and perhaps I'll eventually become knowledgeable enough to catch on to it before someone has to lay it out for me like they would to a kindergartener.

People--if I may: I am just now being able to see the light at the end of the tunnel in my catching-up on reading new posts. The tone of parts of this thread was disturbing to me, and I would like to point out with all due
respect, that it is possible to incite a lively discussion without creating rancor in the ranks. Thank you.

One more category to go! (If I don't count Weekly Themes,
or any of the categories "below the equator", that is; it's been so long since I've had the time to read even the WAD that Weekly Themes would no doubt leave me at a loss.)


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Jackie > it is possible to incite a lively discussion without creating rancor in the ranks. Thank you.
Seconded. Thank you, Jackie.

Now, to get back to "Hactivist" word ... it occurred to me that it is a good example between written and spoken words. As a written word it is easy to infer the meaning from context, but given the various regional accents --in just US -- it is problematical as a spoken word as it requires a strongly asperated "h" .... would not the spoken Hactivist often be heard as Activist?

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would not the spoken Hactivist often be heard as Activist?

well, in the singular form it'd be easy to understand because of the a/an that would precede it.

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and jackie...you are an angel





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jackie...you are an angel
Oh, yes--that rustling sound you hear is the wind in my
wings...

Thank you, too, wow--you're great, you know that?


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