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How can it be mumbling if you end up with more phonemes than you started with?
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Thanks, F, that's a new one for my list! Very useful. But, consarn it, aintcha nevrmumbledsumtinsokinaaindistictllylikeyoulosetrackerjesshowmannyotheyslipprylilphonthingyneemsthereareanall? 
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If yez mummlin yd say shmmy
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coalescent/reciprocal assimilation
Now *that's high falutin!
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Kin ah git lssons, misser mumlemasser? 
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Yugn neem fyugn caw tschimbeley mmmln
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Looks suspiciously like sumpin spat out by Babelfish 
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"Looks suspiciously like sumpin spat out by Babelfish "
And what Babelfish won't swallow is really gross.
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The Old Spanish change homne > homre is dissimilation. When two nasal consonants came together the second lost its nasality. The next stage is epenthesis of a homorganic stop, as a strengthening of the abrupt transition from one place of articulation (bilabial /m/) to another (apical /r/). Interestingly the whole sequence of changes is paralleled:
homine > homne > homre > hombre (and losing the /h/ somewhere in there, probably at the omine stage but I won't swear to it)
cheminée > chemney (> chimney) > chimley > chimbley
The word 'chemination' looks badly formed. The Latin was caminus, Greek kaminos 'furnace'. I don't know how the sense of 'way, road' arose (camino, chemin). So the Latin should give 'camination', and the French should give perhaps cheminage.
I suspect 'chemination' might be a made-up word by someone who wasn't too fussy about mixing languages. Perhaps they had in mind an admixture of 'chemistry' (which is of course unrelated).
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