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Re: Ghazals #29972
05/24/01 03:07 PM
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Avy, perhaps we can all try to propitiate the shade of Mirza Ghalib. After all, few of us here understand Urdu, so if someone doesn't translate some ghazals for us, we'll never get to read any. And I think you're doing great!


Re: Sonnets etc. #29973
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How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being an ideal Grace.
I love thee to the level of everyday's
Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
I love thee freely, as men strive for Right;
I love thee purely, as they turn from Praise.
I love thee with the passion put to use
In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.
I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
With my lost saints, - I love thee with the breath,
Smiles, tears, of all my life! - and, if God choose,
I shall but love thee better after death.

~Elizabeth Barrett Browning





Re: Sonnets etc. #29974
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BobYB,

Thank you for the Petrarchian sonnet.... I enjoyed reading it aloud in the Italian.

I too love the Donne sonnet. In fact, I posted it on the original sublime rhyme thread. Which leads me to ask: is anyone familiar with the play W;t? The semicolon is a reference to the last line:

"And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die."


Re: Ghazals #29975
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BYB: Avy, perhaps we can all try to propitiate the shade of Mirza Ghalib. After all, few of us here understand Urdu, so if someone doesn't translate some ghazals for us, we'll never get to read any. And I think you're doing great!

Indeed, Avy. Thank you for making ghazals accessible to us. I love the repetition device.


Re: Sonnets etc. #29976
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I think the most beautiful poem I have ever read is a very short one, marvelously economic of words, painting a lovely picture, with an interesting philosophical concept.
It describes a Roman fountain with a vertical jet that falls back to fill three successively larger basins achieving equilibrium.
Der Römische Brunnen by Conrad Ferdinand Meyer

Aufsteigt der Strahl, und fallend gießt
Er voll der Marmorschale Rund
Die, sich verschleiernd, überfließt
In einer zweiten Schale Grund;
Die zweite gibt, sie wird zu reich,
Der dritten wallend ihre Flut
Und jede nimmt und gibt zugleich
Und strömt und ruht……



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Re: Sonnets etc. #29978
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A poem I like for a number of reasons. Written by Leo Marks in 1943 as a code poem for Violette Szabo who was an agent with SOE. She was captured and shot in 1944. Appropriate in context and theme for Memorial day.

The life that I have is all that I have,
And the life that I have is yours.
The love that I have of the life that I have
Is yours and yours and yours.

A sleep I shall have, A rest I shall have
Yet death will be but a pause.
For the peace of my years
In the long green grass
Will be yours and yours and yours.



Rod


Re: Sonnets etc. #29979
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Oh no, Rod: you made me cry. Now that is an homage to a hero.


Re: Sonnets etc. #29980
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Thanks for that, Rod. I love that, and haven't read it for years. It has such simplicity and poise.


Re: Sonnets etc. #29981
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Written by Leo Marks in 1943 as a code poem for Violette Szabo who was an agent with SOE. She was captured and shot in 1944.

Leo Mark's book "From Silk to Cyanide" tells of his life in SOE and he talks about many spies he sent off to undercover work during WWII. He was in his early 20s at the time. The book was published last year. If the poem touched you I think you'd enjoy his story.


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