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#29545 - 05/18/01 02:15 PM Show a sound sight  
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Just a quickie:

What is to sound, as show is to sight?





#29546 - 05/18/01 02:19 PM Re: Show a sound sight  
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Hi Wid. Welcome to the board.

How do you mean exactly? Is it "show me the sights, play me the sounds", or "to see the show, hear the sounds"?


#29547 - 05/18/01 03:35 PM Re: Show a sound sight  
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Hi Maverick,

Play the sound is closer. However, it only works if you are 'doing' the sound, ie I could play you the Pathetique on the piano, but it doesn't always substitue.

If I took you to a Rothko gallery last Saturday, I showed you some Rothko piantings.

If I took you to a Waits concert last Sunday, I (?) you some Waits.

Is that clearer?

I hope I'm not nit picking, as a phonophile I find I often get left back-tracking and trying to reconstruct entire paragraphs, or substituing with the cumbersome phrase: auditorily demonstrated.


#29548 - 05/18/01 03:58 PM Re: Show a sound sight  
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Greetings wideeyed!

An 'aural showing' perhaps? Well, perhaps not. In your example, the only possibility I could think of was '.. I introduced you to Waits', but I guess that doesn't help much. When someone wants you to listen to something on the piano, they just say 'Here, I'll show you'.
Anyway, don't worry about the peeves and nit picking, we have a Language Nitpicker's Club here, or should I say Nitpickers', or Nit-Pickers',... oh, sod it.


#29549 - 05/18/01 05:13 PM Re: Show a sound sight  

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If I took you to a Waits concert last Sunday, I (?) you some Waits.

waits?? as in *tom* waits? he is my absolute favorite. [swoon-e]. hi c

as for your query, it does seem strange that there's no auditory equivalent for "show", however whenever "play" isn't appropriate, i would simply substitute "show", eg "i showed the technician the sound that my engine was making".

oh, and welcome a-Board =)



#29550 - 05/18/01 10:09 PM Re: Show a sound sight  
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there's an old Scottish word that might work for this:
kithe - to make known by action, appearance, etc.; to manifest, show, prove, demonstrate, indicate.


#29551 - 05/18/01 11:27 PM Re: Show a sound sight  
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an old Scottish word

Ay, pal, d'ye kithe the swirlin' pipes Jimmuh?

But with this useful exception, is there nothing more normal - how weird, for a basic sensory faculty!

(and yeah, Tom Waits is Dog.)


#29552 - 05/21/01 11:48 AM Re: Show a sound sight  
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Thanks for kithe Maverick, you've earnt me some much needed points against an old Glasgie foe.

Thinking about it, none of the other senses have the 'show' word, which I guess isn't all that surprising given we're visual animals etc.

Two questions: is sound deserving of a 'show' word - do people feel the need for it?

and, if so, is kithe resurrectable, can we pinch one wholesale from another language, or would coining a new word be possible...like 'aude' perhaps?

Can I aude you some music???

PS any music recommendations along Waits lines gladly received (if this is a faux pas, apologies, but please bear in mind the fact that I'm strange )


#29553 - 05/21/01 01:21 PM Re: Show a sound sight  
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Welcome, wideyed:
Hmm - a bit of a problem. As a lecturer, I "present" lectures which are often mainly an auditory experience (I do use visual aids at times, but not always!)
I also commission other lecturers to present lectures, so I use the term not only in an auto-descriptionary (!) fashion.

How would you feel if you were to tell me you were going to "present" Wait, or any other sound, to me? I guess you would have to make it clear, contexturally, that I was not about to have a personal meeting with a person.


#29554 - 05/21/01 03:04 PM Re: Show a sound sight  
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Firstly, sorry to tsuwm for the mis-attribution of my thanks for kithe . (I shan't withdraw my thanks from maverick as I'm sure you'll prove your mettle)

RC, thank you for providing a more elegant alternative, but d'you not think there is a void worth plugging? Maybe I'm just lazy, but I think (in my humble wumble opinion) sound is worthy of it's own 'show' word .

'Present' also infers ownership/control which may not be applicable.

NB Call me thick, but I didn't realise till now that audit meant audience/hearing once upon a time. Ho hum.


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