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Re: hairy goat - Julius Hirsute? #22879
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I remember seeing the statement that there was a tradition of Caesar referring to a surgical delivery of an infant through an incision in the dying woman's abdomen, that there was a law authorizing this to be attempted when there were indications that the fetus was still living.
That operation is therefore called a caesarean section.
Doesn't Caesar come from a root meaning to cut? Corrupted to incision, etc.?


Re: hairy goat - Julius Hirsute? #22880
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>from a root meaning to cut

oh, bill! a hair]/i]cut?!
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Re: hairy goat - Julius Hirsute? #22881
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That operation is therefore called a caesarean section

As I understand it Big Julie was himself ripped untimely from his mother's womb.


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A link to history of caesarean section Lots of good stuff

Cesarian Section -- A Brief History Home Page
Exhibitions and Public Programs. [NOTE ... [Cover]. CESAREAN
SECTION -- A BRIEF HISTORY. Plate ...
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/cesarean/cesarean_1.html [More Results From: www.nlm.nih.gov]


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As I understand it Big Julie was himself ripped untimely from his mother's womb.


That's right, Faldage, push my buttons! Get me ranting about the lousy cheating in Macbeth's plot again!


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Thank you Dr. Bill for dispelling the demons of disinformation with the torch of truth.

Of course, the final answer is, once again: "Well, maybe, we're not quite sure."


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Cae[sar 7sc4z!r8, (Gaius) Julius 5L Caesar, said to be < caesus, pp. of caedere, to cut down (see 3CIDE), but prob. of Etr orig.6 c. 100-44 B.C.; Rom. general & statesman; dictator (49-44) of the Roman Empire



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caesus, pp. of caedere, to cut down

From which we might guess that the Sybil's ravings contained a pun. If indeed that which Graves used was historical fact and not ravings of his own or Seneca's(?) imagination.


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Caesar, said to be < caesus, pp. of caedere, to cut down, but prob. of Etr orig.

OK, so who do we believe? Is Caesar from
caesaries -ei f. [hair , a head of hair]., as Robert Graves obviously thought, or is it from caedere, or from Etruscan. Where in Hades is NicholasW when you need him? He strikes me as the kind of guy who probably reads the daily news in Etruscan.




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how brutal -- a logomachy over Caesar!



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