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#213126 - 11/05/13 10:05 PM Re: Would Understanding Evolution add anything ? [Re: jenny jenny]
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#213212 - 11/14/13 06:20 AM With First Man's Sowing Last Man Did Reap [Re: olly]
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And then one day before there were days, the big bang banged with intent. Then much later, we humans were born in midst of all the banging and we rightly decided to look back, and ahead, to try to figure out the fundamental nature of that original intent.
But you won't find it here. What you will find (if you have a brain that listens) is that you are simply a fleshy robot who has a pretend free will only as much as a will can be considered free by a prudent use of semantics.
Gravity determines what you will do. Your biology determines what you will do. The whole Universe directs you to do what you most certainly will.
( I'll stop here for questions or comments or converts raising their hands to get in line to be washed )
Good. You are right not to argue. Anybody who has the brains of an arthropod will himself extrapolate that life and nonlife could not have come into being any other way.
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#213411 - 12/02/13 02:32 AM Joined: Jun 2010
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Sigh...ok one more time
WORDS HAVE NO ABSOLUTE MEANINGS; WORDS ONLY HAVE FUNCTION
Now listen closely; words and language are physical mechanisms that evolved to aid in the continuance of the speaking clade and not at all for us to understand the nature of the Universe around us.
The senses input; the words output; and if the output has survival consequences for the breeding group it becomes an operating meme.
Logic within our use of words is only logical within an arbitrary set of symbols that are defined by the needs of cause and effect and of the inscrutable concept we perceive as Time.
Or something like that.
#213516 - 12/09/13 11:32 PM Joined: Dec 2006
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WORDS HAVE NO ABSOLUTE MEANINGS; WORDS ONLY HAVE FUNCTION
No problem there!
Maybe its the Budhha/socrates/In the beginning scenarios that are distracting me.
#213522 - 12/10/13 05:37 AM Joined: Jun 2010
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"In the sky, there is no distinction of east and west; people create distinctions out of their own minds and then believe them to be true."
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And as for Socrates; dialogues are sometimes searches for truth but they are also circuitous ways to comprehend the obscure ways of the meanings of our words.
#213525 - 12/10/13 09:13 AM Joined: Dec 2006
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Words are only sounds that we hear. What we think is more important.
#213538 - 12/11/13 02:31 AM Joined: Jun 2010
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Think, Olly.
What we think is out of our control.
Enjoy the ride.
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