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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 3 1 2 3 Re: 1930's meanings of 'heaters' and 'cheaters' [Re: Vic Neilson] #210531 04/19/13 10:32 PM 04/19/13 10:32 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Then, the standard slang definition of heater is 'gun'. I think we have to take the use of these words in this song with a grain of salt. I think they were chosen more for poetic reasons, for their assonance with "Jeepers, creepers." Re: 1930's meanings of 'heaters' and 'cheaters' [Re: Faldage] #210534 04/20/13 02:07 AM 04/20/13 02:07 AM Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,554 Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi J jenny jenny veteran jenny jenny   veteran J Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,554 Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi So right you really are, Faldage. Unless we are to dump the semantic rule of precedent we must accept the slang meaning of "heaters" as "guns" as well as "cheaters" for "eyeglasses". I am surprised that Tromboniater and zmjezhd argue logic when we are talking language. Of course, that is, unless we are talking nuance which is alltogether a different matter. Re: 1930's meanings of 'heaters' and 'cheaters' [Re: Vic Neilson] #210535 04/20/13 11:22 AM 04/20/13 11:22 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Well, in modern day slang guns can refer to biceps, who knows what guns might have referred to in the '30s. Re: 1930's meanings of 'heaters' and 'cheaters' [Re: jenny jenny] #210537 04/20/13 11:58 AM 04/20/13 11:58 AM Joined: May 2010 Posts: 959 Alaska Tromboniator old hand Tromboniator   old hand Joined: May 2010 Posts: 959 Alaska Originally Posted By: jenny jenny we must accept the slang meaning of "heaters" as "guns" as well as "cheaters" for "eyeglasses". Yes, because any one word can have one and only one definition, slang or otherwise, nor may anyone alter or reinvent definitions for (shudder) poetic purposes. Originally Posted By: jenny jenny I am surprised that Tromboniater and zmjezhd argue logic when we are talking language. But then, we use language to argue logic, so logically all discussion is pointless. Nuance, shcmuance; think I'll have some ice cream. Re: 1930's meanings of 'heaters' and 'cheaters' [Re: Tromboniator] #210538 04/20/13 01:41 PM 04/20/13 01:41 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass as long as we're trying (very trying) to get all logical about this, "cheaters" would seem to be sunglasses for some instances; you can see other people's eyes, but they can't see yours - that's cheating. Re: 1930's meanings of 'heaters' and 'cheaters' [Re: tsuwm] #210548 04/21/13 04:55 PM 04/21/13 04:55 PM Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,554 Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi J jenny jenny veteran jenny jenny   veteran J Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,554 Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi What are "heaters"? RESOLVED : A UNION OF LOGIC AND PRECEDENCE Special thanks to the tsuwms, the Faldeges, and the zmjezhds of this World, as well as the Tromboniaters, the LukeJavans and all other romantics of their World, for their small contributions in constructing this resolve. I Mercer/ Miller wrote the lyrics for JEEPER CREEPERS expressly to effect a humorous interplay of meanings as Louis Armstrong sings a lovesong to a racehorse. II The term "heat" in horseracing originated in the thermal heating of the horses especially in preliminary races. III "When you turn those heaters on, woe is me. I got to get my cheaters on." It follows that "turning heaters on" refers to the sudden burst of speed that a racehorse makes as it rounds the backstreach and "cheaters" refers to binoculars or field glasses. Does anyone else have something further to add? Re: 1930's meanings of 'heaters' and 'cheaters' [Re: jenny jenny] #210549 04/21/13 06:58 PM 04/21/13 06:58 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass oh, that's wonderful.. except for the rest of the song he's singing to the horse about her eyes! edit: btw, here he is Last edited by tsuwm; 04/21/13 07:06 PM. Reason: link Re: 1930's meanings of 'heaters' and 'cheaters' [Re: tsuwm] #210551 04/22/13 12:49 AM 04/22/13 12:49 AM Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,554 Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi J jenny jenny veteran jenny jenny   veteran J Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,554 Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi Yes I know, master tsuwm. I think that is what I said. Re: 1930's meanings of 'heaters' and 'cheaters' [Re: Faldage] #210553 04/22/13 01:56 AM 04/22/13 01:56 AM Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 956 Auckland, New Zealand olly old hand olly   old hand Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 956 Auckland, New Zealand Originally Posted By: Faldage Sounds good to me. I agree. Seems simple enough. He aint putting them on to see better, he's putting them on to stop the brilliant glare. Re: 1930's meanings of 'heaters' and 'cheaters' [Re: jenny jenny] #210555 04/22/13 03:51 AM 04/22/13 03:51 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass Originally Posted By: jenny jenny Yes I know, master tsuwm. I think that is what I said. mebbe so; but it's not all that you said. 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