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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Romans in Modern Britain #209754 02/24/13 06:00 PM 02/24/13 06:00 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,160 Land of the Flat Water LukeJavan8 OP Carpal Tunnel LukeJavan8   OP Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,160 Land of the Flat Water Rhubarb Commando, I thought you and others in the UK might be interested in this article if you have not seen it in your local media: http://www.chad.co.uk/news/national/one-million-romans-in-britain-1-5443212 <><> ----please, draw me a sheep---- Re: Romans in Modern Britain [Re: LukeJavan8] #209758 02/24/13 10:34 PM 02/24/13 10:34 PM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,146 Northamptonshire, England Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Capital Kiwi   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,146 Northamptonshire, England Actually, there are probably a lot more of us who are descended from other Europeans who came to Britain during the Roman occupation. Plus, as we already know from previous studies, quite a lot of us are descended from the various Viking groups which came over here in the 9th to 10th centuries for a bit of rape and pillage and then either stayed or went home for the missus before settling here. Britons are mongrels, there's no doubt about that! The idiot also known as Capfka ... Re: Romans in Modern Britain [Re: Capital Kiwi] #209761 02/24/13 10:46 PM 02/24/13 10:46 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,160 Land of the Flat Water LukeJavan8 OP Carpal Tunnel LukeJavan8   OP Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,160 Land of the Flat Water Mongrels?? yuk,yuk ----please, draw me a sheep---- Re: Romans in Modern Britain [Re: LukeJavan8] #209764 02/25/13 01:05 AM 02/25/13 01:05 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Dunno what they mean by "direct descendants". It's not like genes are great respecters of primogeniture. Re: Romans in Modern Britain [Re: Faldage] #209771 02/25/13 09:53 AM 02/25/13 09:53 AM Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,075 Lancaster, UK Rhubarb Commando old hand Rhubarb Commando   old hand Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,075 Lancaster, UK The article says, "The study concluded: "Since the number of Italians or descendants of Italians in the legions did reduce very much over time, we estimate conservatively that one million men in Britain descend from Romans in the direct male line." As to the numbers of people in Scotland bearing these genes, this is most probably mainly a result of the large Italian immigration to scotland - particularly Glasgow - in the late C19 and early C20. Movement between Glasgow and Blefast may possibly explsin some of the Irish results, although there is also the consideration that there was a fair amount of trade between Ireland and the Romans - and withn italy, later on. Casual relationships with sailors and travellers, resident agents and traders, all bring a likelihood of gene distribution. Last edited by Rhubarb Commando; 02/25/13 09:53 AM. I'm immortal until proven otherwise Re: Romans in Modern Britain [Re: LukeJavan8] #209778 02/25/13 12:18 PM 02/25/13 12:18 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Can we tell, genetically, who is in the direct male line? Direct female line, sure, with mitochondrial DNA, but male? Re: Romans in Modern Britain [Re: Rhubarb Commando] #209869 03/02/13 02:18 AM 03/02/13 02:18 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Casual relationships Very discreet language! 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