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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Determinism #209076 01/16/13 03:53 AM 01/16/13 03:53 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie OP Carpal Tunnel Jackie   OP Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Exactly what is this, please? Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie] #209078 01/16/13 04:32 AM 01/16/13 04:32 AM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 M maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick   Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 A fancy modern sciencey retelling of an old word: fatalism. but I would say that, wouldn't I, given the existing conditions...? Re: Determinism [Re: maverick] #209079 01/16/13 07:35 AM 01/16/13 07:35 AM Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,554 Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi J jenny jenny veteran jenny jenny   veteran J Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,554 Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi Originally Posted By: maverick A fancy modern sciencey retelling of an old word: fatalism. but I would say that, wouldn't I, given the existing conditions...? Ah but remember, Maverick, you only think in terms of a purposeless existence. But Lo, with the Big Bang came purpose. We might not know our purpose. How could we? We are only deterministic. But think about it. Whatever the Big Bang was all about... that is our purpose. Re: Determinism [Re: jenny jenny] #209087 01/16/13 05:32 PM 01/16/13 05:32 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,157 Land of the Flat Water LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel LukeJavan8   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,157 Land of the Flat Water Fatalism? Can you be more specific, please. Last edited by LukeJavan8; 01/16/13 05:33 PM. ----please, draw me a sheep---- Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie] #209090 01/16/13 06:19 PM 01/16/13 06:19 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Good info for both at Wikipedia. formerly known as etaoin... Re: Determinism [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu] #209091 01/16/13 06:31 PM 01/16/13 06:31 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,157 Land of the Flat Water LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel LukeJavan8   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,157 Land of the Flat Water I see. Thanks. Some study is needed on my part. Appreciate it. ----please, draw me a sheep---- Re: Determinism [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu] #209092 01/16/13 07:44 PM 01/16/13 07:44 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass Originally Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Good info for both at Wikipedia. see esp. fatalism for a contrast of determinism, fatalism and predeterminism. Re: the preterite & the elect [Re: tsuwm] #209094 01/16/13 09:56 PM 01/16/13 09:56 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Sheep go to heaven and goats go to hell. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie] #209098 01/17/13 12:21 AM 01/17/13 12:21 AM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague "Determinism often is taken to mean simply causal determinism, which in physics is the idea known as cause-and-effect. It is the concept that events within a given paradigm are bound by causality in such a way that any state (of an object or event) is completely determined by prior states." My at one time 17 year old son tried to convince me that as soon as all data about everything would be known and collected we would be able to completely control the course of events. He was quite certain this would happen. I don't know, they still can't get the weather forcast totally right. Re: Determinism [Re: BranShea] #209099 01/17/13 12:51 AM 01/17/13 12:51 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Originally Posted By: BranShea My at one time 17 year old son tried to convince me that as soon as all data about everything would be known and collected we would be able to completely control the course of events. He was quite certain this would happen. I don't know, they still can't get the weather forcast totally right. The only problem is that we will never know all the data about anything. Page 1 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. 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