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Page 1 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 > Topic Options #209076 - 01/15/13 10:53 PM Determinism Jackie Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 11613 Loc: Louisville, Kentucky Exactly what is this, please? Top #209078 - 01/15/13 11:32 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie] maverick Carpal Tunnel Registered: 09/15/00 Posts: 4757 A fancy modern sciencey retelling of an old word: fatalism. but I would say that, wouldn't I, given the existing conditions...? Top #209079 - 01/16/13 02:35 AM Re: Determinism [Re: maverick] jenny jenny veteran Registered: 06/05/10 Posts: 1554 Loc: Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi Originally Posted By: maverick A fancy modern sciencey retelling of an old word: fatalism. but I would say that, wouldn't I, given the existing conditions...? Ah but remember, Maverick, you only think in terms of a purposeless existence. But Lo, with the Big Bang came purpose. We might not know our purpose. How could we? We are only deterministic. But think about it. Whatever the Big Bang was all about... that is our purpose. Top #209087 - 01/16/13 12:32 PM Re: Determinism [Re: jenny jenny] LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/08 Posts: 8432 Loc: Land of the Flat Water Fatalism? Can you be more specific, please. Edited by LukeJavan8 (01/16/13 12:33 PM) _________________________ ----please, draw me a sheep---- Top #209090 - 01/16/13 01:19 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie] Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/24/02 Posts: 7210 Loc: Vermont Good info for both at Wikipedia. _________________________ formerly known as etaoin... Top #209091 - 01/16/13 01:31 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu] LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/08 Posts: 8432 Loc: Land of the Flat Water I see. Thanks. Some study is needed on my part. Appreciate it. _________________________ ----please, draw me a sheep---- Top #209092 - 01/16/13 02:44 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu] tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 10538 Loc: this too shall pass Originally Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Good info for both at Wikipedia. see esp. fatalism for a contrast of determinism, fatalism and predeterminism. Top #209094 - 01/16/13 04:56 PM Re: the preterite & the elect [Re: tsuwm] zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 3290 Loc: R'lyeh Sheep go to heaven and goats go to hell. _________________________ Ceci n'est pas un seing. Top #209098 - 01/16/13 07:21 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie] BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5295 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague "Determinism often is taken to mean simply causal determinism, which in physics is the idea known as cause-and-effect. It is the concept that events within a given paradigm are bound by causality in such a way that any state (of an object or event) is completely determined by prior states." My at one time 17 year old son tried to convince me that as soon as all data about everything would be known and collected we would be able to completely control the course of events. He was quite certain this would happen. I don't know, they still can't get the weather forcast totally right. Top #209099 - 01/16/13 07:51 PM Re: Determinism [Re: BranShea] Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13803 Originally Posted By: BranShea My at one time 17 year old son tried to convince me that as soon as all data about everything would be known and collected we would be able to completely control the course of events. He was quite certain this would happen. I don't know, they still can't get the weather forcast totally right. The only problem is that we will never know all the data about anything. 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