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#202292 - 09/05/11 06:37 PM made up languages  
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I thought this was interesting and looked at the dictionary also. Just the existing 'real' languages are enough to keep me guessing on meanings, etc. I don't think I have the imagination to create a new language, but I know that more than several authors have done so.
I could definitely use a few of these words though!


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After earning a Ph.D. in linguistics, Suzette Haden Elgin invented the language Láadan for a science fiction novel. What makes the language unique is that it’s designed particularly to express the perceptions of women:

widazhad: to be pregnant late in term and eager for the end
radiídin: a non-holiday, a holiday more work that it’s worth, a time allegedly a holiday but actually so much a burden because of work and preparations that it is a dreaded occasion; especially when there are too many guests and none of them help
rathom: a “non-pillow,” one who lures another to trust and rely on them but has no intention of following through, a “lean on me so I can step aside and let you fall” person
rathóo: a non-guest, someone who comes to visit knowing perfectly well that they are intruding and causing difficulty
ramimelh: to refrain from asking, with evil intent; especially when it is clear that someone badly wants the other to ask
bala: anger with reason, with someone to blame, which is not futile
bina: anger with no reason, with no one to blame, which is not futile
ab: love for one liked but not respected
doóledosh: pain or loss which comes as a relief by virtue of ending the anticipation of its coming

One word that has no English equivalent is doroledim, which means “sublimation with food accompanied by guilt about that sublimation”: “Say you have an average woman. She has no control over her life. She has little or nothing in the way of a resource for being good to herself, even when it is necessary. She has family and animals and friends and associates that depend on her for sustenance of all kinds. She rarely has adequate sleep or rest; she has no time for herself, no space of her own, little or no money to buy things for herself, no opportunity to consider her own emotional needs. She is at the beck and call of others, because she has these responsibilities and obligations and does not choose to (or cannot) abandon them. For such a woman, the one and only thing she is likely to have a little control over for indulging her own self is FOOD. When such a woman overeats, the verb for that is ‘doroledim.’ (And then she feels guilty, because there are women whose children are starving and who do not have even THAT option for self-indulgence …)”


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#202295 - 09/05/11 11:05 PM Re: made up languages [Re: va-vavoom]  
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Curious and interesting. Put it next to Elvish created by Tolkien;
and Klingon, in Star Wars; and probably a host of others. Esperanto too.
Makes a novel more interesting, that's for sure.

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#202301 - 09/06/11 03:00 AM Re: made up languages [Re: va-vavoom]  
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a “non-pillow,” What an interesting concept! It makes you think twice about relaxing, that's for sure!

#202305 - 09/06/11 05:04 PM Re: made up languages [Re: Jackie]  
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In the novel is it a Women's world, with no men;
do they not speak the language or have another of their own?
(Amazons?)


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#202323 - 09/07/11 06:54 PM Re: made up languages [Re: LukeJavan8]  
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I haven't read any of her work, but thought I would look for it in the library, so I don't know if it is solely 'women'.
Jackie, I thought that was an intriguing concept also....I know a few people that would describe and think I will add the word to my vocabulary as a pejorative. they'll never know how badly they are being insulted!


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