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 Who's on the menu, the bad poet?
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Well, there are a bunchof words in Latin beginning with claud- that have to do with limping, but there is also a patrician gens (roughly clan) Claudius (sometimes Clodius, link). I think the emperor Claudius just happened to be lame and have a name that meant that.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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so the whole Claudian clan (Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius, and Nero) got saddled with a nom de guerre, as it were?
Nope. Tiberius was a member of the Claudius gens. Tiberius was the son of Tiberius Claudius Nero. Tiberius was Augustus' stepson, because his mother Livia Drusilla married Augustus. That's how the Claudians got merged with the Julian gens (of Caesar fame) to name the Julio-Claudian emperors.
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That's the way I've understood it: it is a clan name, like
"Smith" or "Green" in our culture.
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it is a clan name, like "Smith" or "Green" in our culture.
The Roman system of naming involved (usually) three names:
1. praenomen: given name (from a small set, e.g., Gaius, Marcus, Publius)
2. nomen (gentile): clan name (e.g., Claudius, Julius, etc.)
3. cognomen: family name (e.g., Caesar, Drusus, etc.). It originally started out as a nickname to differentiate people with the same praenomen and nomen.
[Edited to unconfusticate half-plural/half-singular forms in final sentence.]
Last edited by zmjezhd; 05/16/11 11:24 AM.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Thanks for all that information zmjezhd. Yes, they must have annoyed him with jokes about it.
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My mother's maiden name is Scottish and means either lame or illegitimate. I rather prefer the former but as it was umpteen generations ago either makes a good story.
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you don't see many 'lame'
people these days!
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