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#199225 - 04/19/11 02:30 PM pariah
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#199226 - 04/19/11 02:57 PM Joined: Jun 2008
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WELCOME MOWGLI
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#199231 - 04/19/11 07:35 PM Joined: Jun 2006
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Does this mean Mowgli, that before 1613 Dalit was the general word for the untouchable caste ? Has pariah replaced this word Dalit which you write with capital D , while pariah is written without a capitial ? I know very little about this. Was the untouchable caste only one tribe?
By the way, on the photo the drummer is beating the drum with two sticks.
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#199233 - 04/19/11 11:09 PM Joined: Dec 2000
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#199243 - 04/20/11 01:21 PM Joined: Aug 2005
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In the Oldest Sanskrit text (the Rig Veda), there are four divisions, from highest to lowest, in the caste system (varṇa 'covering, color'): brāhman 'priest', kṣatriya 'warrior', vaiṣya 'merchant, artisan', and śūdra 'laborer'. The split and proliferated in post-Vedic times. Brahmin is related to Latin flamen 'priest' and Kshatriya is related to Iranian shah and English chess.
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#199259 - 04/21/11 05:16 AM Joined: Sep 2010
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Thats a good point, Faldage.
I have read that the word pariah may come from the Tamil word parai and parayar "to tell something".
In early days announcements were made in public places and attention was sought be beating the drum. These broadcasts were usually made by men from the lower casts. So you can see how the two became to mean the same, pariah and low cast.
And maybe the messages were not always good news.....
Like the saying, 'shoot the messenger' maybe the pariah became the outcast because of the announcements he made.
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#199267 - 04/21/11 01:55 PM Joined: Aug 2005
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Took a quick look in Burrow's Dravidian Etymological Dictionary (brick & mortar version, but also online): entry 4033. Corroborated, although it also means a measure and a member of the Paraiya caste.
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#199273 - 04/21/11 03:31 PM Joined: Jun 2000
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Edit: Sorry luke edited this after you replied to it. Never serves to refer to the P word.
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#199276 - 04/21/11 05:16 PM Joined: Jun 2008
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But it is good to hear that it is not of daily relevance.
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