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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
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All adverbs for me. It's pretty uncontroversial categorization, (see, for instance, A-H link). YMMV. I should also say, bush is not an adverb for me, but I see how Pullum could analyze it that way for the Australians who made the utterance..


Pullum and Huddleston classify all of the above as prepositions.

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It was John Dryden who first promulgated the doctrine that a preposition may not be used at the end of a sentence, probably on the basis of a specious analogy to Latin. Grammarians in the 18th century refined the doctrine, and the rule has since become one of the most venerated maxims of schoolroom grammar. But sentences ending with prepositions can be found in the works of most of the great writers since the Renaissance. English syntax does allow for final placement of the preposition, as in We have much to be thankful for or I asked her which course she had signed up for. Efforts to rewrite such sentences to place the preposition elsewhere can have stilted and even comical results, as Winston Churchill demonstrated when he objected to the doctrine by saying "This is the sort of English up with which I cannot put."·Sometimes sentences that end with adverbs, such as I don't know where she will end up or It's the most curious book I've ever run across, are mistakenly thought to end in prepositions. One can tell that up and across are adverbs here, not prepositions, by the ungrammaticality of I don't know up where she will end and It's the most curious book across which I have ever run. It has never been suggested that it is incorrect to end a sentence with an adverb.

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I've always liked the Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek in Copenhagen. It was founded in 1882. The Glyptothek in Munich, opened in 1830, is also cool. Also, in Germany there is often an Apotheke on the corner to buy something to help with your language-squeamishness. wink But, seriously, Greek βιβλιοθηκη (bilbiothēkē) just meant a 'bookcase' or 'collection of books'. Thēkē. just means receptacle. Nothing to do with lending. I admit the first time i saw a department store in France called magasin it gave me pause to wonder. They must have a lot of journals and newspapers to sell in there.


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Pullum and Huddleston classify all of the above as prepositions.

Well, bully for them. I said in the beginning (or in some other thread), there's a whole lot of similarity between things called adverbs, prepositions, and verbal particles. I'll have to crack my copy of H&P's Grammar and read up to see if I agree with their analysis. In the late days of the waning of American Structuralism (right before the enfant terrible of linguistics, Noam Chomsky came along and stirred things up), folks like Zelig Harris (Chomsky's advisor at UPenn) advocated dumping all the old terminology and starting anew with semantically opaque terms like class X or class Q. Pretty much all of grammar these days has to do with the slot filling of sample phrases or sentences.


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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
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your language sick squeamishness. wink .
Allright, allright and thanks for the theek, but would you mind calling it a light case of language sensitivity?

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would you mind calling it a light case of language sensitivity?

Sure, and very light it is. Course, it's better than prepositional preservation anxiety syndrome. wink It's interesting how these bits of language get reanalyzed and assigned to different categories. for example, back in the '50s and '60s, -orama (< panorama < Gk οραμα (horama) 'sight', got tacked on to a whole bunch of words; later, -gate (< toponym Watergate) developed and is still with us. Another long-lived one is -burger (< Hamburger 'of or relating to Hamburg').


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Originally Posted By: Faldage
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Pullum and Huddleston classify all of the above as prepositions.


Altho I haven't read CGEL, my understanding is that the argument goes that there's no reason to reclassify a preposition as an adverb when it isn't followed by a noun phrase. For instance, why classify "down" different ways in "I fell down the stairs" and "I fell down". After all, verbs are still verbs whether or not they are followed by noun phrases.

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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
What about a gerund like "hunting?"

I suppose if the -ing form was used as a noun, it'd be OK., But remember those forms are sometimes adjectives. Cf. His hunting days are over with Hunting gave him great joy.
1. On hatching, the chicks scramble to the surface and head bush on their own.
2. On hatching, the chicks scramble to the surface and head hunting on their own.
For me both sentences are weird, but then I don't savvy Strine.


I only savvy a little Strine, but "to head bush" is subtly different to "to head to/for/towards/into the bush". I'm not really sure I can explain it though, which isn't particularly useful for anyone. The bush in the former implies a state rather than a place and "head bush" is the verb, if that makes any sense.

If I come up with anything better I'll let you know.

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I only savvy a little Strine, but "to head bush" is subtly different to "to head to/for/towards/into the bush". I'm not really sure I can explain it though

Ah, an informant. Wonderful!


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"to head bush" is subtly different to "to head to/for/towards/into the bush".
To 'head bush' or 'go Bush' is to get away from it all.

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