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1586 (n.) "a reduced image," from It. miniatura "manuscript illumination or small picture," from pp. of miniare "to illuminate a manuscript," from L. miniare "to paint red," from minium "red lead," used in ancient times to make red ink. Extended sense of "small" (adj.) is first attested 1714, because pictures in medieval manuscripts were small, infl. by L. min-, root expressing smallness (minor, minimus, minutus, etc.).

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>miniare "to illuminate a manuscript," from L. miniare "to paint red,"

is this where the dispute comes in? (some words (read character strings) got overloaded in Latin, just like they have in English.)

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Originally Posted By: dalehileman
Welcome Avyy you seem to possess a sense of humor and would discuss anything with you being dalehileman@me.com


Thank you Mr. DH. Will take you up on that when there is something to discuss.

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Yes, this etymology gives many miminismes, but I liked the detail of the minium, used to make red ink. The dispute, it seems, started from 1714. I looked it up and could not find anything in English. This transl. text says:
For this ink the 'rubricator' used pulverized red minium, hence the name 'miniature'.

It was used mainly for rubrics - in early books and manuscripts, a title, initial letter, or the like lettered in red or in some other distinctive fashion.

As could be expected the word rubric connects with 'red' as well.
rubric:
c.1375, "directions in religious services" (often in red writing), from O.Fr. rubrique, from L. rubrica "red ochre, red coloring matter," from ruber, from PIE base *rudhro- (see red).

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Originally Posted By: dalehileman
Welcome Avyy you seem to possess a sense of humor and would discuss anything with you being dalehileman@me.com


Thank you Mr. DH. Will take you up on that when there is something to discuss.


Well I do have a variety of interests; philosohy, religion, cosmology, language, beer. If you were a closer neighbor I'd hope you could come over and join my excellent sons and I in our sauna tastng exotic imported brews


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Well I do have a variety of interests; philosohy, religion, cosmology, language, beer.

Cosmology is okay. How about poetry, drama, cooking, and language as in grammar (descriptive not prescriptive) and type 1 words?

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If you were a closer neighbor I'd hope you could come over and join my excellent sons and I in our sauna tastng exotic imported brews

Whether I am a close neighbour depends on which route i take. If I take the "Trans Gaia Route" and start digging a hole in my back yard, the light at the end of my tunnel will be from your sauna. I will however wonder why you'll walk upside down.

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Originally Posted By: dalehileman

Well I do have a variety of interests; philosohy, religion, cosmology, language, beer.


Cosmology is okay.

****Yes it is

How about poetry, drama, cooking,

***No but willing to discuss

......and language as in grammar (descriptive not prescriptive)

***I was formerly a prescriptvist but it causes heartburn so turned in my credentials and now a de-. Yes I argue that a rom sholdn't be called a drive so as to provoke discussion but I really dont care any more

.......and type 1 words?

******Not very interested in type-1 but collect -2, using them wherever appropriate. Type-1 I try to remember in passing but make no special effort

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If you were a closer neighbor I'd hope you could come over and join my excellent sons and I in our sauna tastng exotic imported brews


Whether I am a close neighbour depends on which route i take. If I take the "Trans Gaia Route" and start digging a hole in my back yard, the light at the end of my tunnel will be from your sauna. I will however wonder why you'll walk upside down.



**When I access your profile Av, I note you haven't filled it out so I presume you're Down Under (weak pun)


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There is not much we have in common huh?

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Down Under (weak pun)

How about this... I notice you are good at making puns. I am not, but i want to learn. I am reading a book that is a study between puns in the English language and puns in Sanskrit. It is absolutely fascinating! It has got me interested in puns for the first time ever. So maybe we could talk about puns?

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When I access your profile Av, I note you haven't filled it out so I presume you're Down Under (weak pun)

Wrong! Look at the globe; I just did to confirm that we are exactly half a world apart. (Actually the above paragraph gives away where I am from.)

See you at dalehileman@me.com.

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Originally Posted By: Avyy

Look at the globe; I just did to confirm that we are exactly half a world apart. (Actually the above paragraph gives away where I am from.)


Remember, halfway around the world is farther away than all the way around the world.

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