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I have the fallacy of being rather black and white. I am not blaming Luther, but rather
saying that is probably a point when they disappeared pretty much for good from the
Protestant Bible, Luther or no. They are called Deuteroncanonical, meaning "secondary"
canonical, never completely accepted, but secondary, hence the 'deutero'.
My comment is that Hannukah's source is in Macabbees.
That is the only point I was trying to make, and some people consider Macabbes as Scripture.
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The point with Hanukkah is that, while being recorded in some versions of the Bible, it is not mandated as a holiday. Lots of things were recorded in the Bible that aren't holidays. For example, there's no holiday that I know of celebrating the Baptism of Jesus by John.
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some versions of the BibleI have always been fascinated by the issue of the canonicity of the books that make up the Tenakh/Old Testament and the New Testament. For example, one book, that was really quite popular and cited as scripture by Tertullian was the Shepherd of Hermas (in English and Greek). One book which nearly did not make it into the New Testament was the Book of Revelation (as well as some of the Epistles).
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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The point with Hanukkah is that, while being recorded in some versions of the Bible, it is not mandated as a holiday. Lots of things were recorded in the Bible that aren't holidays. For example, there's no holiday that I know of celebrating the Baptism of Jesus by John. Unless I misunderstand you, there are some denominations that celebrate the Baptism of Jesus by John as a holy day, but not a holiday as you mention.
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Unless I misunderstand you, there are some denominations that celebrate the Baptism of
Jesus by John as a holy day, but not a holiday as you mention.
That may be. I just said that I didn't know of any. There's a lot of things I don't know, some of which I know I don't know and some of which I don't know I don't know. And a whole lot that I don't even know it's possible not to know. Do you know on what date the Baptism is celebrated?
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Unless I misunderstand you, there are some denominations that celebrate the Baptism of
Jesus by John as a holy day, but not a holiday as you mention.
That may be. I just said that I didn't know of any. There's a lot of things I don't know, some of which I know I don't know and some of which I don't know I don't know. And a whole lot that I don't even know it's possible not to know. Do you know on what date the Baptism is celebrated? This really made me laugh. It fits me to a T. There is so much I don't know and want to know. Thanks for the laugh I have a friend who is a Roman priest, Catholic, I mean by Roman. I called him and he told me the feast of the Baptism of the Lord by John/Baptist is Today: 11 January. It occurs on the Sunday after the Epiphany which is celebrated by Roman Catholics on January 6. Yet in states west of central standard time it is on the following or previous Sunday. Go figure. I can't. This discussion sure makes me wonder why any religion knows what is going on. The basic Scripture is so "convoluted", to use a term. Some religions have some books in the Bible, other's don't - no wonder they cannot get together and just seem to keep splitting further. One wonders what Christ would say, to say nothing of Moses. Anyhow, thanks for the chuckle.
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Sorry to drop in on this serious conversation but the add under it caught my less serious eye:
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Sorry to drop in on this serious conversation but the add under it caught my less serious eye:
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Make her remember this holiday with our pearls. Money back guarantee. ( pearls for free?) So...presumably if you gave them to someone with Alzheimer's you would get your money back.
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That may be. I just said that I didn't know of any. There's a lot of things I don't know, some of which I know I don't know and some of which I don't know I don't know. And a whole lot that I don't even know it's possible not to know. Do you know on what date the Baptism is celebrated? There has been an alarming increase of late in the number of things I know absolutely nothing about!
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Do we know who wrote Hebrews? Is that one that biblical scholars are pretty sure was written by Paul? No we don't know who wrote it since it has no ascribed author, unlike all the other letters of Paul, which all begin with his name in the first line. That's one of the arguments, albeit from silence, against Pauline authorship. Paul might have written it, or he might not. Most scholars would say not. There is no totally definitive evidence, from the letter's contents, either way.
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