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Anu selectively published responses to promote his own views. Did he tell you that? A careful reading of my post would see two uses of the phrase "I (don't) think". When I learned English, I was taught that this phrase identified what followed as a statement of opinion rather than one of fact. If my failure to use the phrase a third time confused you and caused you to miss the two previous signals of subjective opinion contained in my response, I apologize. I had thought that twice would be sufficient to make it plain that like others in this thread, I was merely giving my opinion. I did not realize that some would require it to be repeated again in order to grasp that point. How sad that my optimism was unfounded.
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As long as we're talking about use of a second language, my reading of your relevant post, I don't think it was weak editorial policy at all. I think it was deliberate as a native speaker of English, is that it was your opinion that Anu's actions were not subconcious but deliberate. As is his right, Anu selectively published responses to promote his own views. That his actions were motivated by a desire to expose the visciousness of carnivores seems to be presented as fact. A more careful reading suggests that this is not the case and that you really did intend to suggest that it was your opinion that his actions were so motivated, but it took a little explication to come to this view. When one knows what one means, it's not so easy to see that one's words are subject to another interpretation. This is a failing of native speakers, too.
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implicit in my post was angry.. upset.. thoughtful; all the samples were supportive. this is weak editorial policy. I disagree. I don't think it was weak editorial policy at all. I think it was deliberate - "let's only publish the angry rants, to show the world what angry nuts those vicious carnivores are". As is his right, Anu selectively published responses to promote his own views. and as long as we're discussing interpretation, who's being quoted here? I think my post should be read as wondering where the thoughtful, non-supportive responses were? I would never expect to see rants quoted by Anu.
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A thoughtful non-supportive response; could it be like:
I truly believe plants have a capacity for feeling pain. Sometimes when I take a bite of an extremely beautiful leaf of lettuce I feel just as much a cannibal as when I eat a piece of chicken or fish. (not to mention eating flowers such as artichokes, nasturtium and violets)
(This point of vieuw ignores the problem of the animal factory issue with which I disagree completely.)
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A careful reading of my post would see two uses of the phrase "I (don't) think". I saw them. I think it was the period that confused me: I didn't realize that the separate sentence also came under the purview of "I think". My bad. Sorry.
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implicit in my post was angry.. upset.. thoughtful; all the samples were supportive. this is weak editorial policy. I disagree. I don't think it was weak editorial policy at all. I think it was deliberate - "let's only publish the angry rants, to show the world what angry nuts those vicious carnivores are". As is his right, Anu selectively published responses to promote his own views. and as long as we're discussing interpretation, who's being quoted here? I think my post should be read as wondering where the thoughtful, non-supportive responses were? I would never expect to see rants quoted by Anu. so is this a situation wher I could say I was, what is the idiom, 042? Or Oh for too?
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I think it was deliberate - "let's only publish the angry rants, to show the world what angry nuts those vicious carnivores are". I went back and reread the weekly email. Perhaps you could quote from one of the posted emails that "show[s] the world what angry nuts those vicious carnivores are."
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what is the idiom, 042? Or Oh for too?
O(h) for two.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Um--at the risk of missing irony, I will offer that 0 for two means zero successes out of two efforts.
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