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#174852 03/19/08 02:15 PM
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I prefer that Word.A.Day stays away from political agendas. I do not appreciate the anti-meat daily postings from Matt Ball.

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Mm--that's why I didn't open today's Word, that's for sure. I figure it's got to be some harangue.

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that's why I didn't open today's Word

I hadn't looked at it until after I'd read this post. As an omnivore who grew up on a farm, I didn't feel particularly harangued. (Others may be more sensitive.) Factory farming gets over 300K ghits, so I'm not so sure why it shouldn't be included in a lexicon of late 20th century or early 21st century English.

[Addendum: The OED gives an early cite for the term factory farming in a US journal of economics in the late 19th century. Moderate googling in Google Books turns up these quotations from 1904 (positive connotation link) and 1928 (negative connotation link).]

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I agree--and yet, on some level, everything is political!

he quotes Mark Bittman (food columnist for the NYTimes)--but it's out of context.. Mark isn't a vegan, or even anti meat.. He's frequently done columns/tv shows about skills like butchering a pig (to make fresh sausage)

of course there is an element of truth to his complaint.
Dairy farm used to be one of the biggest polluters in NYS.. not from cow pies, but whey.

Now there are whole industries for using whey.

ever wonder why there was ELMER (a bull) Glue? Elmer's glue is a by-product of cheese making.. cut the curds, drain of the whey, and then make it into at least 2 products (that i know of)
elmers glue
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caisen plastic (knitting needles are sometimes made from this plastic)

one advantage to plastic made from caisen (a milk protein) is the plastic is biodegradable (it only last about 50 to 100 years before it breaks down)

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Wonder if the name supposed to suggest a meatball

Just kidding, Matt. However, I've found that one can sometimes successfully cloak political comment in circumambage. For instance, I collect words underused in everyday speech but of more precise meaning.* By the sheerest coincidence two I made note of just this morning were "rubric" and "kleptocracy," when it immediately occurred to me that the present Administration might be referred to as a rubric of kleptocracy


*(I call them "Type-2" but can't supply a link to the appropriate thread because after several years I am still unable to succesfully navigate WordSmith's search algorithm so maybe somebody else more diligent will do so)


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I figure it's got to be some harangue.

Well, do you consider Pig Flats , meaning high, many layered stables that will contain 300.000 pigs per 'building', in this country, (darn!) no larger than a thumbtack on the globe a 'harangue'?
It's hell and this is our present dispute; the fight is on.
This is not about producing food , this is about generating money. And it would turn you into a vegetarian by sheer disgust.
I'll stick to the occasional 'haring = hareng = herring'.

(Jackie, I know it isn't Friday, all you need to answer is:
"Ahum")
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hareng

Hmm, a rollmops for Bismarck.


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IMHO, the individual posts themselves are somewhat close to NPOV - neutral point of view - i.e. encyclopedia quality.

This reminds me very much of the recent week that someone objected to the guest host solely on the basis of how his name was formatted in his work email address.

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Bran I agree wholeheartedly on the treatment of farm animals and have addressed the Clergy on this matter but it verges on politics/religion so if you are interested I am dalehileman@verizon.net

Myr: You have to learn a whole new set of protocol for each board on which you participate. On one site I was banned for using the slang, "Leftpond" referring to the U.S. in the same thread where I also used the word "persiflage"

Interesting to note in the latter connection that I had been accused of the practice in an earlier thread by another contributor who got away with it. But I thought "persiflage" was just an excellent Type-2 word and so I used it--in reference not to somebody else, but myself

Alas that was some years ago and they still won't reinstate me because I'm such a bad person


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Interesting! I actually thought maybe someone had been peeking at our "bee" thread and its discussions of vegetarianism, animal treatment and the like... Who knows? :0)

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