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The follow-up youtube video has the two Danes briefly talking about Nynorsk.

Yes, this one wasn't quite as funny as the first, but still some good glotto-humor.

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A. found Danish difficult even in a second visit to København but had the rather prejudiced impression that it would be much easier for Dutch speakers. Cannot help but wonder if øl is more akin to 'ale'.

Still remember this: "Jeg talle kun lidt Dansk."

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For you English speaker it is more akin. Dutch does not know the word ale, only the word bier. From ale to bier is a far jump.
From øl to olie (oil) is close.

I think the distances between English / Dutch and Dansk are about equal, but on other words. See, jeg and ik are close (for Dutch) but lidt and little are close for English . That is if :"Jeg talle kun lidt Dansk" means "I can speak only a little Danish"
Talle sits in our word vertellen. (to tell) (I did no check on this). I may have guessed this all wrong.

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if øl is more akin to 'ale'.

They are cognate. From PIE root *alu- 'bitter, beer', cf. alum, German Alaun, Lation alumen.


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How about wheeled? No. That has to be whee-uld. (And I'm not talking diphthong.) Are you asking because there are people who can say it in one syllable?

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wheeled

I've always felt that words like fired or yield have one-and-a-half syllables, but perhaps it's just something special about approximant consonants (e.g., l, r). Nobody has trouble saying that words which end in a stop, like fight, or a fricative, like strives, are monosyllabic. (This is in Standard US English.) But as soon as you look at something like fire all certitude goes out the window.


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Southerners may say it whee-uld, but the rest of the world probably has no trouble saying it wheel'd.

It's dialectic.

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Originally Posted By: Jackie
How about wheeled? No. That has to be whee-uld.


Is it not just a matter of speeding it up a bit?

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In current theories of phonetics, the very concept of syllable structure is problematic. More references can be found in this article on ambisyllabicity in the language of the Rigveda (link). More can be found by googling ambisyllabicity. (Some languages even allow words that have a-syllabic words, along the lines of English shh or Mandarin sz 'four'.)


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No matter how fast I say it, it's still two-syllabled! Numbers one, four, eight and ten often come out in two syllables, too, but they don't have to like wield/wheeled/weald does.

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