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Does anyone know a magazine that has liberal doses of erudite literary vocabulary (i.e., not necessarily jargon) like I see on Wordsmith? I'd like to buy a subscription to one or more magazines and mark them up to study the words and how they're used in context. I'm just having trouble finding a good magazine; so far, I've identified American Spectator as a good possibility, but there must be others. Or perhaps someone could direct me to an author whose books I could purchase.
Any help would be appreciated,
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I don't have any subscriptions like that for myself; however, I've had recommendations from other people whose opinions I value:
The Economist
The New Yorker
The Atlantic Monthly

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welcome, jot!

I don't know about magazines, but Arts & Letters Daily is a wonderful online source.


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Originally Posted By: TheFallibleFiend
I don't have any subscriptions like that for myself; however, I've had recommendations from other people whose opinions I value:
The Economist
The New Yorker
The Atlantic Monthly

Yes, I'm familiar with those journals and they are very fine. I especially like the New Yorker's pithy style. But when it comes to erudite vocabulary, I don't find the frequency to be as high. All journals have interesting vocabulary and it usually depends on the writer, but it's not altogether uncommon that in just one article of the American Spectator, for example, I can find at least six or more interesting words or usages — or at least interesting to me. I list examples in two articles below:
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12387
The great Talmudic genius...led the rabbinic court
writing of the divorce was proceeding apace
her poor cuckolded husband
which conservative principle would be subverted by such solidarity
has run afoul of free-market orthodoxy
targeted the Republican Party as a generic counterforce
inimical to their cause
being treated as the bogeyman
This type of behavior wreaks havoc with an image of ideological constancy
The company sells widgets to the public
unions emerged from the catalyst of socialism and are still intoxicated by its matrix
with its attendant potential for thuggery
that should eventually ramify to the benefit of the inventors of the product
They are not acting like royalty, only scrounging for royalties

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12398
the Republican Party is dredging up the specter of "HillaryCare"
the stillborn beast Clinton unveiled
government can harness private-sector competition
Give Hillary credit for her political wiles.
she is positioned to hoist Republicans by their own petard.
regulations that hobble the health-care industry
ill-conceived tax laws
And they've unwittingly created a monster
these principles cannot be engineered by a government bureaucracy.
Any program that codifies health care as a public good
To prevent this bureaucratic Rube Goldberg machine from collapsing, legislators invariably resort to price controls,
a market mired in bureaucracy
Piecemeal government interventions into the market...must be dismantled

Does anyone else know of other journals that are similarly filled with interesting words and usages?

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Originally Posted By: etaoin
welcome, jot!

I don't know about magazines, but Arts & Letters Daily is a wonderful online source.


Thanks for that excellent site. I notice a list of magazines on the left side. I've looked at perhaps half of those, so I'll try to analyze the others.
Cheers...

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If the political slant is not a big concern, Mother Jones ( http://www.motherjones.com/ ) might be of interest.


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jot: Welcome. I admire your determination to learn. Were I as resolute in my earlier years I could have been a better writer. I love Japan, having lived there some 6 years. I am dalehieman@verizon.net


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If political slant is not a concern, how about National Review or The New Republic?

Or, politics aside(?), The New York Review of Books.

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Browse the dictionary with a pencil.

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Originally Posted By: Hydra
Browse the dictionary with a pencil.

Ha, good one. I need context, preferably in a paragraph — and in a format that isn't unwieldy so I can carry it around and study on the subway without looking silly.

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If political slant is not a concern, how about National Review or The New Republic?
Or, politics aside(?), The New York Review of Books.

National Review was actually second on my list. I found The New Republic and Mother Jones average for vocabulary. Thanks for the suggestion on The New York Review of Books; it seems a good option and comparable to National Review.
I also discovered a magazine that beats them all — The New Criterion, some of whose writers employ ample vocabulary. Here's a sample:

http://newcriterion.com:81/archives/26/12/laphams-latest-folly/
The notebooks of the English aesthete...are a trove of amusing aperçus, anecdotes, and apothegms.
This 7,500-word philippic appeared in...Harper’s...with a brief hiatus...
...not the heat of its invective...but its mendacity.
Mr. Lapham intoned...
...neglected to take the elementary precaution of publishing his piece
Confronted with his dereliction, Mr. Lapham waxed petulant
Mr. Lapham’s cavalier disregard for historical fact...
...it is ironical (not to say contemptibly risible)
...magazine ostensibly dedicated to history...requires a disinterested respect for the truth
It is lavishly produced
...consists mostly of promiscuous gleanings from the past
The sophomoric identifications provide a good index
The pretentiousness adumbrated in that list emerges with febrile ostentation
His command of inconsequentiality has elicited comment
Along with his patrician drawing-room leftism
Mr. Lapham’s logic is errant
Mr. Lapham’s incontinent logic is disorienting
...it stymies forthright discussion
...addiction...to the ephemeral, bequeaths us an intellectual poverty
But by swaddling that important commonplace with his baroque, politically tendentious verbiage
...disaster of historical nescience
...a symptom of the cultural cataclysm it pretends to diagnose

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what I find very interesting is that many of your highlighted words seem quite ordinary to me, though there are some real doozies in there...

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The pretentiousness adumbrated in that list emerges with febrile ostentation


heh.


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That is tautological, IMO.

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Here's a book, jothan, that might make you acceptably erudite if you think that you should really bother...

Due Considerations: Essays and Criticism by John Updike

New York Times Book Review (in part)

"...I am myself familiar with the reviewing cliché, from both ends of the business, so I say deliberately that Updike’s scope is rather breathtaking (from Isaac Babel straight to James Thurber on successive pages), and I add that he seems almost incapable of writing badly. When I do not know the subject well — as in his finely illustrated art reviews of Bruegel [Hi, BranShea :)], Dürer and Goya — I learn much from what Updike has to impart. When he considers an author I love, like Proust or Czeslaw Milosz, I often find myself appreciating familiar things in a new way. I enjoy the little feuilletons he appends, for example on the 10 greatest moments of the American libido. And I admire the way he can construct a classical sentence that makes an abrupt, useful turn to the American demotic:

“Having patiently read both versions” of Philip Larkin’s “Collected Poems,” “this reviewer believes that the second, chastened version, confining itself to the four trade volumes Larkin supervised and the uncollected poems ‘published in other places,’ does give the verse itself a better shake.”

This appears in one of the best long treatments of Larkin’s poetry I have ever read. Those of us who adore this work have a tendency to feel personally addressed by it and to resent any other commentators as interlopers. Updike seems almost to know what we are thinking. It’s of interest, also, that his own vestigial Christianity — or do I mean surviving attachment to Christianity? — proves on other pages to be not dissimilar to Larkin’s own synthesis, in “Aubade” and in “Church Going,” of a bleak materialism fused with an admiration for the liturgy and the architecture.
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On second thought just reading the New York Times book reviews of this book should enable you to converse wildly and wrongly with the intellectual chic.



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The pretentiousness adumbrated in that list emerges with febrile ostentation

That is tautological, IMO.

It makes more sense if I supply the whole sentence:
The pretentiousness adumbrated in that list emerges with febrile ostentation in “The Gulf of Time,” Mr. Lapham’s lengthy “Preamble.”
It doesn't exactly deserve the label tautological because the pretentiousness in the list is, apparently, only adumbrated; that in the preamble, on the contrary, is febrile.

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Originally Posted By: themilum
Here's a book, jothan, that might make you acceptably erudite if you think that you should really bother...
Due Considerations: Essays and Criticism by John Updike
New York Times Book Review (in part)

Thanks for the suggestion; I'll look into that. I noticed John Updike wrote one of the articles displayed on The New York Review of Books website.

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On second thought just reading the New York Times book reviews of this book should enable you to converse wildly and wrongly with the intellectual chic.

Well, the subject matter shouldn't matter too much; just as long as the vocabulary is handled effectively: I learn from their writing technique rather than their ideology.
The problem with studying mere lists or the dictionary is I'm not creative enough to think of appropriate contexts to use them. I'd like these words to be right at my fingertips so they can be effortlessly and spontaneously employed when auspicious occasions arise.

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Due Considerations: Essays and Criticism by John Updike

Thanks for the title, themilum. I really want to see how Updike revieuws Breugel. For the subject matter and for the writing technique. (Our library may have it.)

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It makes more sense if I supply the whole sentence:


You're right. That's okay.

Hence, contextomy is bad.

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Here's an interesting article in The Guardian:
http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,2227650,00.html

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From albedo to zugunruhe
How often do you bother looking up an unfamiliar word? Should writers make us reach for our dictionaries? Four years ago, James Meek vowed to learn every alien word he encountered, and discovered poetry in obscurity.


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If for every word you do not completely understand you would reach for your dictionary, there would be little enjoyment in reading a book in a foreign language. Only when an unknown word is the key to understanding the content, the dictionary is needed. To make side notes of intriguing unknown words and look them up afterwards is fun.

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