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#170074 09/19/07 12:37 PM
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Some coworkers and I were recently discussing the word "haulier" and wondering about it's etymology. It sounds like an odd usage. One who "carries" is a "carrier", and (in the US), one who "hauls" is a "hauler". Using the carry/carrier example, "haulier" should come from "hauly" or something similar. Obviously it doesn't. Similarly, one who "sails" is a "sailor", not a "sailior". "Haulier" is the more common form in the UK, so I assume it's also the older usage. Anyone know where it comes from?

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haulier is a new one to me..

hauler, yes, but trucker is more common.

and there is also Carter--in NYC metro area, private sanitation companies are carters.

carting is commercial/private garbage removal.

City/county services are garbage men (or nicer, and used by the guys themselves, san men. (from sanitation)).

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from my Apple dictionary:

haulier |ˈhôlēər|
noun
British term for hauler.


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Ok, sahibski--putting your name together with your post, I have decided that you are a Russian Indian living in Britian...

I've not heard the word haulier before, but I'll guess that it's along the same lines as couturier, bombardier, chocolatier, and Premier, etc.

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That makes sense, Jackie. Comes through the French, non?

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Thanks Jackie, that was good for a chuckle or two. No, actually I'm just a basic American living in Houston, TX. Sahibski is a nickname a friend of mine came up with many years ago, and I just liked it.

Good points regarding the other similar words. I'm guessing there is a French connection there somewhere. The company I work for is global and the term haulier came up related to trucking firms in Europe used for delivering products. It was a new one for me!

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This old gal (age 78) remembers hearing haulier a lot as a child in New England. It sort of disappeared in the late 1940s, along with wearing morning clothes(men) and hats (women) oo Easter.

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haulier |ˈhôlēər|
British term for hauler
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hen-and-egg question: which was first?
According to the OED: Haulier: 1577, Hauler: 1674

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Originally Posted By: of troy
haulier is a new one to me..

hauler, yes, but trucker is more common.

and there is also Carter--in NYC metro area, private sanitation companies are carters.

carting is commercial/private garbage removal.

City/county services are garbage men (or nicer, and used by the guys themselves, san men. (from sanitation)).



Truckers are Truckies here in enzed.
And the guys who used to collect the roadside rubbish bins were known as dusties. It was customary at Christmas time to leave the dusties a bottle or Two of your local brew.

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used to? What happens to it now? We've gone to having the bins picked up and dumped by a mechanical arm on a truck, but somebody has to drive the truck.

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Haulier is new to me. In my experience, a trucker is a human being who drives a truck, and a hauler is a business engaged in the transportation of goods, although trucking company is used more frequently.

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I know dustmen (i've read my dickens, and know there is gold in the dust!) and would recognize dustmen as san men..

i even know what a skip is!
In US, skip is a jumping sort of walk (as in skip, skip, skip to my lou, most commonly done by young girls --or jumping with a rope --as in jump or skip rope. there is some sort of geographic distribution as to who uses what word (in NYC is JUMP rope)
(and there is also double dutch, a style of jumping with 2 ropes--for Years, this was a NYC and north east US specialy, but for the past few years, the japanese have been the champs at it)

Your skips are our dumpsters. and we sometimes dumpster dive(ie find useful stuff in the trash, and retrieve it)
Is there an alliterative term for doing the same in skips?

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