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NYT August 7 2007

It’s a Female Dog, or Worse. Or Endearing. And Illegal?

By MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM

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The New York City Council, which drew national headlines when it passed a symbolic citywide ban earlier this year on the use of the so-called n-word, has turned its linguistic (and legislative) lance toward a different slur: bitch.

The term is hateful and deeply sexist, said Councilwoman Darlene Mealy of Brooklyn, who has introduced a measure against the word, saying it creates “a paradigm of shame and indignity” for all women.

But conversations over the last week indicate that the “ b-word” (as it is referred to in the legislation) enjoys a surprisingly strong currency — and even some defenders — among many New Yorkers.

And Ms. Mealy admitted that the city’s political ruling class can be guilty of its use. As she circulated her proposal, she said, “even council members are saying that they use it to their wives.”

The measure, which 19 of the 51 council members have signed onto, was prompted in part by the frequent use of the word in hip-hop music. Ten rappers were cited in the legislation, along with an excerpt from an 1811 dictionary that defined the word as “A she dog, or doggess; the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman.”

While the bill also bans the slang word “ ho,” the b-word appears to have acquired more shades of meaning among various groups, ranging from a term of camaraderie to, in a gerund form, an expression of emphatic approval. Ms. Mealy acknowledged that the measure was unenforceable, but she argued that it would carry symbolic power against the pejorative uses of the word. Even so, a number of New Yorkers said they were taken aback by the idea of prohibiting a term that they not only use, but do so with relish and affection.

“Half my conversation would be gone,” said Michael Musto, the Village Voice columnist, whom a reporter encountered on his bicycle on Sunday night on the corner of Seventh Avenue South and Christopher Street. Mr. Musto, widely known for his coverage of celebrity gossip, dismissed the idea as absurd.

“On the downtown club scene,” he said, munching on an apple, the two terms are often used as terms of endearment. “We divest any negative implication from the word and toss it around with love.”

Darris James, 31, an architect from Brooklyn who was outside the Duplex, a piano bar in the West Village, on Sunday night was similarly opposed. “Hell, if I can’t say bitch, I wouldn’t be able to call half my friends.”

They may not have been the kinds of reaction that Ms. Mealy, a Detroit-born former transit worker serving her first term, was expecting. “They buried the n-word, but what about the other words that really affect women, such as b, and ho ?

"That’s a vile attack on our womanhood!” Ms. Mealy said in a telephone interview.

Many of those interviewed for this article acknowledged that the b-word could be quite vicious — but insisted that context was everything.

“I think it’s a description that is used insouciantly in the fashion industry,” said Hamish Bowles, the European editor at large of Vogue, as he ordered a sushi special at the Condé Nast cafeteria last week. “It would only be used in the fashion world with a sense of high irony and camp.”

Mr. Bowles, in salmon seersucker and a purple polo, appeared amused by the Council measure. “It’s very ‘Paris Is Burning,’ isn’t it?” he asked, referring to the film that captured the 1980s drag queen scene in New York.

The b-word has been used to refer to female dogs since around 1000 A.D., according to the Oxford English Dictionary, which traces the term’s derogatory application to women to the 15th century; the entry notes that the term is “not now in decent use.” ...


Silly Yankees...

Let's make a deal. I won't call anybody a h-word or a n-word or a b-word if nobody here calls me the r-word which represents redneck.

Deal?










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Let's make a deal. I won't call anybody a h-word or a n-word or a b-word if nobody here calls me the r-word which represents redneck.

Deal?


That's an h-word or an n-word you silly hill-billy.









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Not when you're writting southern dialect, you would-be carpetbagger.
Get out of your books, Falderal, come join me in the real world where people move around.

Scales will fall from Faldo's eyes.

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... you would-be carpetbagger.


That's what I am, but what are you?

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What am I?

Certaintly not a scalawag. I am, in fact, mayor elect of Viola, Alabama and I was voted so because I am the smartest man in Blount and Etowah County, and so by a simple logical extention of that formulation I find that I am easily smarter than anybody in New York and those other northern states, except for one man who now lives in Massachusetts named E.O. Wilson who by God's good grace was born and raised in Alabama.

Read any of his books lately?

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Can't get around using the f- word and the a- word. Funny and pretty amusing that article.

The b-word has ( mainly through music) been adopted in its original form by all Western languages and more. In the youngster circuits mostly. Used in the same double-faced sense.

The words keep coming and changing.Resistance is futile.


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