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heh. "darkside of the moon where the sun don't shine" - Milo ha! (good call, helen) -joe (buyuranus.com) bfstplk Makes no difference : both in and out of the sun it's hell. Temperatures on the surface of the Moon swing wildly from one extreme to the other, from an average of -184°C (-300°F) in the shade to an average of 101°C (214°F) in the sun, precisely because of the lack of atmosphere there. I'll send an S.Y.S. to the Moon. (Sting)
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There are a number of literary tales of those who buy/sell moon property, and the potential legal consequences of such.
tempus edax rerum
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I can definitely sell any one here my rights to any portion of the moon you desire.
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Milum! re: but the reason he ain't selling is that his property is located on the darkside of the moon where the sun don't shine and that is why and where he is stuck and can stick it.
The sun, at some point shines on every part of the moon.
We here on earth only get to see the same side of the moon, the sun graces all of then moon
--your resident lunitic, moon mad me That's it, the jig's up, I'm caught, dress me in red and call me Mattie! Never should I wax poetic when I'm up to my neck in an admiring bog of pedant alligators who insist I call the sweet wetlands a dark and dank swamp. Yes, Helen, moonmaid, et al, I agree, perception is not reality . There is but one reality; one is a romantic reality and the other reality is one made up of electrons and other nebulous stuff. Come let us discern reality together... Why does the full moon and the rising and setting sun appear so big when seen on the horizon?Fair notice: Only me and seven other people on Earth know the correct answer to this question.  And remember... Be kind to our web footed friends
For the duck maybe somebody's brother
Who lives all alone in the swamp
Where it's cold and damp.
You may think that this is the end.
Well it is. 
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i love wet lands milo-- i used to enjoy to no end the 2 minite a day interlude when the LIRR passed through the local wetlands!
as for the moon looking bigger, optical illusion. (a wonderful one though, isn't it?)
i love to look at the moon --romantically, poetically, and properly!
PS, i know it as:
Be kind to our web footed friends
For a duck maybe somebody's mother,
be kind to your friends in the swamp
Where it's dark, cold and damp.
You may think that this is the end.
Well it is.
(but then i know peter, peter as:
Peter Peter, pumpkin eater
Had a wife, couldn't keep 'er.
Had another, couldn't lov 'er,
Up the chimney he did shove 'er!
(i learned fractured nursery rhymes, what can i say?)
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...as for the moon looking bigger, optical illusion.
(a wonderful one though, isn't it?)
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PS, i know it as:
Be kind to our web footed friends
For a duck maybe somebody's mother,
be kind to your friends in the swamp
Where it's dark, cold and damp.
You may think that this is the end.
Well it is.
Oh heck! Helen, you forgot that all things optical are, in effect, an illusion. Sorry. I must now remove you from my list of the seven people on Earth who fully understand the reason why the sun and moon seem to loom so large when on the horizon. ----------- Bye-the-sweet bye and bye, just curious Helen; did you all, like we all, sing "Web Footed Friends" to the tune of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic"?
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The illusion of the large sun or moon near the horizon (vs in the 'dome of sky' above has to do with the human field of sight.
at the horizion, the moon looks larger (compaired to trees, building, and even in comparision to the horizontal fielf of vision.
in the dome of sky above, with no distractions, we see it (the moon) for what it is, a scant 5° of the 180° (more or less) that the dome of sky is.
as a NYC dweller, i love the moon--its bright enough not to be faded by ambient light (venus and several of the planets are visible too,) but all but the brightest star are impossible to see. i now live 10 miles closer to manhattan, and see fewer constillation now in my more urban digs, then i saw in my more suburban neighborhood.
and no, not battle hymn of the republic, but to stars and stripes forever (sousa) but i did used to know several kids song that were sung to the Battle hymn--(including "john brown's body lies a molding in the grave")
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Close, Helena, but no cigarillo. The frame of reference idea is partly "how"; but not "why". Hint: Put a dime in your outstreached hand and with it you can block out your harvest moon. Keep trying and I might, just maybe, put you back on the list of the seven most incisive people on Earth. You've already scored two points for pointing out that the childhood rhyme about the web footed duck was sang to tune of "Stars and Stripes Forever" and not the "Battle Hymn of the Republic". It also explains why I was thrown out of my high school marching band. 
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I must now remove you from my list of the seven people on Earth who fully understand the reason why the sun and moon seem to loom so large when on the horizon.
Just out of curiosity, Milo, do any two of the seven people on your list agree with each other?
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I must now remove you from my list of the seven people on Earth who fully understand the reason why the sun and moon seem to loom so large when on the horizon.
Just out of curiosity, Milo, do any two of the seven people on your list agree with each other? What a strange question. Well no, Faldage, so far I've only explained to about a hundred or so people why our moon and sun when seen on the horizon appears to be extraordinarily large, but only seven people (and you were one of them) nodded their heads either physically or figuratively as if to say that they understood what I said. What? You want off my list too? 
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