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"It was one with the no-parking symbol and [the spelling may be off a bit] "LAANGER DAN 1/2 HUR".
That is good memory! Aramis . "LANGER DAN 1/2 UUR" longer than half hour.
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"English and Dutch are quite close, both being varieties of Low German. Only Frisian is considered to be closer to English."
Yes, zmjezhd that is true about Frisian. Yet English and Dutch share one famous middle- Dutch middle- English sentence : " Olla vogala hebban nestas begunnan, hinase (without)ic enda tu"
That's about how I rembember it from the first English litterature lesson. It's a well known link, but I should look it up and here it is very late. Wish the world would be flat, this time difference would be less. (I guess)
True. German in it simplest form can be more or less understood without training , but very little. It is a total different language now. And needs real study just like English and French.
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show English and Low German both being part of the West Germanic family, but do not show English as a variety of Low German. Unless I'm misunderstanding what is meant by "variety", which seems quite likely.
I was sloppy. Sorry about that. Most of the West Germanic languages form dialect continua across the Low Lands and Germany (Switzerland and Austria). Anglo-Frisian (i.e., English, Scots, and Frisian) are distinct from Old Frankish (Old Franconian, i.e., Dutch, Flemish, Afrikaans) and Low German (lots of northern German Plattdeutsches). In fact, in the area where I lived (Bonn), the local dialects are sometimes called Middle German (between High and Low German). This area is called the Rhenish Fan because dialect isoglosses diverge there in a fan-like shape. Anglo-Frisan, Low German, Middle German, and Old Frankish all share some interesting traits that High German doesn't: retains t in words like Kölsch et, English it, High German es English eat, High German essen; 2nd Germanic Sound Shift didn't take place Eng make, Du maken HG machen, Eng two, Du twee, HG zwei, Eng apple, HG Apfel. Historically the dialects that became Old English (language of the Angles and Saxons) came from around southern Jutland and Schleswig-Holstein, where North Germanic (Danish) and Low German dialects are spoken today. The other Saxons migrated to what's now Saxony in Eastern Germany.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Aramis, my favorite Dutch street sign was posted outside a 30'x30' fenced-in sandbox and said "hunden toiletten" with a drawing underneath of a squatting dachsund! No trouble translating that one either. 
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Sorry Zed , ( though not in language, once a teacher always a teacher.) "hunden"should be "honden". (pron. o ) Hund is German and in German nouns always get a capital to start with. So: "Hund". (pron. oo) ( plural is Hunde ) No, no umlaut. It's a pity dogs nor apparently their owners can read very well.  (that was a ridiculous, total failure mesurement). You mentioned one of the problem sides of Holland. Now there is a law to clear up your dogs'mess and slowly the situation improves. (not quick enough, not enough legal control) I like the way this works well in U.S. You can walk without beeing on the alert all the time.
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Thanks for the correction, I saw the sign 9 years ago so altho' the joke stayed with me the spelling apparently didn't.
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Thanks for the correction, I saw the sign 9 years ago so altho' the joke stayed with me the spelling apparently didn't.
Yes,and what a joke it was! 30'X 30' and it did not work for 1'
Still good you remember our silly ways in dealing with half a million Amsterdam dogs!
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Some comfort then in a small bad Dutch spelling club. Should have dug out the photograph of the sign to type from [it was amusing enough to take one]. But it likely would have taken an uur langer for the post.  Dank U, BranS
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Tot Uw dienst. Complimenten voor perfecte spelling!
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